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jarrod said:

Ugh, this point-by-point-quote-within-quote thing you do is incredibly annoying.  If you're going to respond to me in the future, please don't do it.

i only do it to respond individually to each of your points

Anyway, my only point was that the shader effects already seen in 3DS are closer to 360/PS3 than anything else we know of.

i agree but above you are saying its like 360 and PS3 quality which i didn't agree with

 Obviously 3DS doesn't have near the fillrate, programmability or flexibility they do, but what it's doing is so far beyond PSP...

yes i agree it wold be better than PSP

but is it the leap that we see between 2 generations,not much.would be be comparable to PSP2,which it will not?now i know we don't know PSP2 specs but from whatever  and however we follow gaming,we should know that PSP2 leap will atleast be bigger than this.

if you are gonna go saying Wii is a great system and it is stronger than PS2,GC and XBOX,that doesn't matter.what matters is did it take the leap that 360 and PS3 took.no it didn't.

it's like comparing Dreamcast to Xbox.  Sure, they're within the same "generation" class of spec, but there's a huge difference in capability. There is a readily apparent "leap" here.

yes but the leap should be comparable and the Dreamcast was released far earlier than XBOX,it more like DREAMCAST was released in middle of the PS1 generation not in a new generation

And when I say Wii 2 will be a "generational leap" I was clearly referring in regards to Wii.

yes i think the same but wouldn't you like a leap and it being comparable to PS4 and 720.it would be a generational leap from what PS2.5 to PS3.5.generational leap WOULD ONLY BE WHEN IT IS LEAP COMPARABLE TO the current generation

 Frankly, CELL is a terribly unoptimized chip for gaming,

its a new architecture,would you be saying the same if PC's from 1980's be using CELL then they would have gotten used to the architecture.

 I've no doubt Nintendo will use chip that's weaker on paper, yet appreciably more powerful in the real world for gaming application, and at a much more logically economical pricepoint...

think the same but i have  certain doubts still as PS3 hadn't still been maxed anywhere near

it'll be like PS2 vs GC all over again.

so you saying Wii will be comparable or a little bit over PS360 and be like PS2 vs GC.now PS2 wasn't that behind that Wii.5 vs PS4 will be PS2 vs GC