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jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
jrsax7 said:

As to the people that think that Ninty is going all out, I can't agree.  Don't get me wrong, there will be a significant improvement and definitely a couple of surprises.  But judging by the 3DS, I don't see them going all out.  The 3DS seems to be clearly superior to the DS, but it does not look like a graphics leap from psp. I expect cool features and interesting new concepts.

I think the next Wii (or whatever they call it) will be HD and at LEAST on par with PS3 AND 360. 3D.... not sure, let's see how tv sales go.


3DS is a decent step up from PSP... it's already doing geometry on par with PSP's best (MGS, KH, etc), twice over for 3D actually, and layering effects on top of it all that even PS2 or Gamecube aren't capable of.  Self shadowing, normal mapping, bump mapping, specular highlights... 3DS is pumping out the sort of effects we generally see on advanced shader architectures like those found in 360 and PS3.  Effects wise, 3DS certainly is a generational leap over PSP.

I'd expect Wii 2 to be a similar step up over 360/PS3 honestly.  Comparable in some respects, a huge advancement in others, but clearly ahead overall.

3DS is not pumping out effects that we find not 360 and PS3 but only effects that we didn't see on PS2,GC.Better but not anywhere near PS3,360.

3DS is not generational leap.only enhanced last generation graphics with 3D

Eh, it's doing hardwired shader effects that weren't in any widespread use last gen, on any hardware.  Even Xbox had limited use of stuff like normal or bump maps, and no real self-shadowing or anoything along those lines.

thats what i said it is better but not as much as this gen

 In terms of effects, it is indeed doing things are more often seen on 360 and PS3 than last gen systems, and it's doing this pre-release, in demos that were put together in about 3 months.

it will do things similar but not upto the mark.its in between

And 3DS is pretty easily a generational leap from DS, which is all that really matters.  The fact that it handily outperforms PSP from all vantage points (geometry, textures, lighting, effects) is beside that somewhat.

just being better than PSP does nothing.you have to have a pretty big leap like between two generation and 3DS is not doing that.its in between.

 I expect Wii 2 to be pretty similar, a generational step up from Wii and outperforms 360/PS3 decently.

Wii2 will not be generational leap as it will not do PS4 and 720 graphics which is what generational leap should like being same level with other.not when PS4 and 360 comeout they release PS360 type hardware

PS3 is still pushing boundries though and is still expensive,will we see as powerful as PS3 in CPU department as Nintendo will not make a console costlier than $299