Ron Paul For President in 2008

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N-Syte said:
It's a bit amusing to see how much Franklin is thrown around these days. I guess we are to interpret his words to mean that no amount of safety is worth any sacrifice in liberty. Of course the words "essential" and "little" are key. But I suppose a quote is easier than explaining oneself.
Would it make you feel any better to know that Ben reviewed intercepted communications from the British?

FROM THE BRITISH. Not from his countrymen, unless you misspoke. And the point of the post I QFTed was that if we've managed to get through the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, and the Cold War without gutting the Constitution, it'd be a shame to allow it to happen against the much LESSER threat we face from terrorism. Yes they knocked down the WTC towers, but Bin Laden would be dead two or three times by now if the current administration hadn't incompetenly let him escape. Afghanistan wouldn't be seeing a resurgent Taliban if our focus hadn't been shifted to a completely needless conflict in Iraq, and our focus wouldn't have shifted so much if the post-invasion occupation hadn't been criminally mismanaged. The greatest threat America faces today is the Bush administration. P.S. And YES, I am aware of Lincoln's suspension of Habeus corpus, the Japanese-American internment camps, the Communist witch-hunts PLURAL, FDR's court-packing scheme, et cetera; but we had to fight like hell to get all that stuff tossed out. Ergo we should be fighting like hell to make sure the current outrages are reversed and the perpetrators exposed and punished.