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I have yet to preorder gt5 yet because the limited edition is not up on amazon yet. Anyways i am not very excited about reach (this is coming from a guy who bought the legendary, collectors , and standard edition of halo 3). Also i have noticed more people like COD oover halo. Everyone in my school didnt care too much about halo reach but as soon as the new call of duty trailer came out everyone was hyped. So i think halo reach might sell the same halo 3 because the game lost some fans but the 360 gained a larger userbase. As for GT5 i believe it will sell 1.5 million 1st month in the U.S. Hell i believe it can sell 2.5 million if sony bundles it and sony gives it a huge marketing campaign. Also black friday sales will help.