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I think someone should get banned if they say GT5 won't sell as much as its predecessors because the PS2 doesn't have the same install base.

Explain MGS4 vs MGS3? MGS3 on a 100M userbase vs. what? 10M? 12M PS3 when MGS4 came out?

What possible spin can you put on that to cater to your argument that since the userbase isn't as high, there's no way that GT5 can perform as predicted? 

It's such a weak statement that it just *catch this* doesn't contribute to the thread. Which is apparently ban worthy

#sneers

I mean, dude wanted to bring in attach rates and what not to prove his side. Well look at it like this. GT 2001 Tokyo Concept and GT4: Prologue both sold like 1.5M. GT5P sold 3.75, according to VGC, and that doesn't even include digital downloads. No GT game has sold under 9M, and this could very well be the most anticipated one so far (judging by Concept --> GT3, GT4P --> GT4). And you all want to say that Reach is just gonna be some juggernaut and GT5 is nothing? 

You all better hope that Reach gets the same marketing treatment that Halo 3 got. I mean, cause think about it. People play Halo for the multiplayer. ODSTs multiplayer was just as good as Halo 3s yet it sold so much less, and I'd chuck that up to marketing. So here's hoping to some Reach Mountain Dew