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theprof00 on 20 June 2010
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ZenfoldorVGI said:
theprof00 said:
A203D said:

Hate to be the person who brings up the obvious, but are you sure its not the disc, is it scratched or something?? imo opinion it looks like the tv isnt recieving the signal properly. but obviosuly i dont know that, i would try different wires, different settings, maybe a different tv, before coming to this overheating conclusion.


it's an e74 error. This is exactly the type of artifacts that appear when the gpu is dying or faulty.

And did you read my post above? He looks like a hardcore gamer, not the type to fuck up a console just to burn MS over the internet. You'd have to ignore the setup he has in his room to consider that he might have had a loose wire. That kind of person doesn't look like someone who doesn't check their equipment first.

Unless he's just a huge troll with something to gain...I don't know why he would buy 4 360s and THEN make this video.

That's funny, when I had an e74 error, I got 2 red rings and had to send my console in. I never got any graphic abnormalities until my console froze.

Next thing Sherlock, you are jumping to a lot of conclusions here. He has several new Xbox 360s and went to E3 so you assume he's a fan. I would assume he's a journalist, or a related member. Just as valid. That would also mean he might not pay for his own consoles, and since you hear Japanese perhaps that means he's a Sony fan.

Huge leaps of logic like yours and mine prove nothing. While I admire your attempt, anecdotal experiences prove nothing, and nothing in that video indicates a "e74 error" that sounds like something you picked up off the youtube comments. I've had to deal with warranty issues with that error before, and on the old 360s, it comes in many forms and can mean many things. It certainly isn't necessarily associated with graphics abnormalities.

To top it all off, the console is still playing. It isn't freezing, so how do you speculate this is indicative of emminant failure?

A few things:

1. He never turns the console off and turns it back on.

2. He never tries another console on the TV to see if it's doing the same thing.

3. Didn't try to change the cable out..

4. Didn't even turn the channel to see if it is related to the TV and not the 360.

We can't many any decisions with information like this, it's bullshit, and you(and the guy) guessing it's heat, it ultra bullshit, because it's an attempt at stigmitization, and you are also defending your clueless guessing and spreading it around as fact.

I'm tempted to report your obvious aggressiveness, but I know it's not against the rules to be angry.

So, Watson, go check out youtube, and see for yourself that e74 causes graphical distortion.

I'm not saying you don't have a point. They are assumptions. However, I am narrowing down the range of what is possible, whereas you are not. You leave ALL possibilities open. We do not have more information on this except for what is shown on other videos. He has a huge collection of games. He could be a journalist, but he hasn't posted any other "news" on his channel except that his ps3 stopped working. So my ASSUMPTION that his ps3 broke was actually correct. Imagine that. I narrowed down the evidence and came up with a logical conclusion that turned out to be right.

My reasoning is under the assumption that he's at least as smart as you and me and has as much experience in doing so. He has a much greater collection than you or me have combined, I'm sure, and you question whether the cable was loose?!?! Look on youtube. E74 vertical lines. There are hundreds of videos showing similar artifacts to varying levels of death. Your e74 was the GPU dead. Your's didn't go through a dying phase. This guy's video is showing that, along with all the videos on youtube.

Your assumptions answer no questions and the debate will never end. If you can't argue using logical data and evidence, and instead reject it completely, then don't argue and don't attack people.

I'll finish by saying that "you could be right". However, I'll follow that up by saying that your idea goes against all presented data..

EDIT: also, to correct your misguided assumptions listed above.

He's most likely not a journalist because he has no other "controvercial" or "provocative" stuff on his page. A journalist would have a website linked or some other info. Why would he want to cover up being a journalist when d-toid posted a video of a new 360 eating a disc? That makes no sense. I could see if maybe he was a game tester...since most live in CA.
The girlfriend was on the computer, so it would be her animu, not his and therefore no logical sony affiliation. Additionally, areas of CA have heavy Japanese culture and influence so it's most likely a common thing and not some obsession with japanese things.

Also on his page are 4 videos showing off his collection. True he probably doesn't pay for his own consoles, but maybe he does. Considering the nostalgia level of the stuff he owns, he's probably about 25 give or take 5 years.

I don't think anything you presented was logical in any sort of way. And the only thing that seems possible is that he may or may not pay for his games, which really isn't relevant at all anyway. Unless you have an idea that he did indeed buy all this stuff in order to make one video showing a new 360 fail and seem like a 360 fan so that nobody would suspect he was trying to hurt MS...