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blaydcor said:
infamous23 said:
blaydcor said:
infamous23 said:
amp316 said:
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Well, if they could make a game like Eternal Darkness, it would seem that they're much more interested in making Party and Wii Series games and some of the new games like that they didn't bring to America like Fatal Frame IV and Disaster:  Day of Crisis.

They did make a more controversial game this gen, but they didn't bring it to America.  Captain Birdo or something?

HOTD, Manhunter 2, and Madworld weren't made by Nintendo.

If Nintendo really wanted to be edgy there would be sex, nudity, and gore in Other M, but I would say there will be very little of that in Other M in comparison to the typical games on the other systems.

I know about GTA IV because I played it.

 

The underlined part. HAhahahahahahahahahahahaha. Sex, nudity and gore are only "edgy" if you're a 15 year guy or have the mindset of one. There is nothing remotely edgy OR mature gained by including any of those in a game.

In fact, the inclusion of them, especially in the gratuitous capacity that's so pervasive these days, belies more  a lack of maturity than the other way around. 

If anything, making 2D "family friendly" side-scrollers is edgy, since it's not in vogue and is in that sense working against market trends. 

Oh well, I guess you don't consider books by Henry Miller, Brett Easton Ellis, or William S.  Burroughs to be very mature although many critics of literature would tend to disagree.

The edgiest games on Wii this gen remain Suda 51's because his are the only ones that really book the pervasive trend of all Wii games including the 2d platformers that they must all be palatable by all gamers and conducive to Wii sales to the casuals.

If you really want to talk about the edgy 2d platformers that were at this year's E3 they're not NSMWii, KEY, or DKCR, but Blade Kitten on PSN, Limbo on 360 and Rayman Origins.

Is that really how you're going to argue this?

The book part I mean. 

Find me a critic that acclaims a story or book by any of those authors and (a) says it's mature and (b) calls it so because of the inclusion of sex, violence, and gore.

Know what they say? Pulp is sex and violence, literature is love and death. Not that I fully agree with that, but it certainly embodies the critical spirit of the literary community. 

I mean, if you want to argue illogically, don't do it with books. Books are my thing. I read way more than I game. Hell, I write more than I game. 



I argued it very logically.  If you're talking about pulp, then you're talking about Kirby's Epic Yarn and Donkey Kong Country Returns, because Nintendo had a game in the same genre last year that sold 14 million copies and both DKCR and KEY are just attempts to replicate that past games' success which is what pulp does.

About those authors, they're considered artists not pulp writers because their depiction of sex and violence was unlike any depictions of sex and violence in literature before their time.  Something Nintendo rarely innovates upon because it's easier for them to keep putting out their equivalents of Disney movies each year than to try to tell new and compelling stories in their games. 

Just one example about those writers, William S.  Burroughs was inducted into the American Academy and Institute of Arts and Letters in 1983, what about you?