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infamous23 said:
amp316 said:
infamous23 said:
amp316 said:
infamous23 said:

It's more like they refuse to move out of the family friendly mold.  And yeah, they do have Metroid:  Other M, but does anyone expect that to be controversial enough to get any higher than a T rating?  I really don't think with their current success that Nintendo would have the guts to put out edgier games like Heavy Rain.

Didn't Nintendo publish Eternal Darkness?  What was the rating on that? 

About Heavy Rain.  Isn't it like one of those old Choose Your Own Adventure books?  Don't you just select what you want to do and the game does it for you, or am I mistaken? 

Nintendo didn't develop Eternal Darkness.  That was Silicon Knights.  And it was made in the Gamecube era at a time when Nintendo might not have been playing as safe with game ideas to protect sales unlike now when they announce two 2d platformers in one E3 conference instead of any new thematic ideas for their games.

Don't know.  Never played it.  But at least it has a story that takes game stories in a new direction according to several reviewers.

But they did publish it which counts for something.  Now why would Nintendo want to protect sales during the Gamecube era when their sales weren't very good?  Are you telling me that if you're behind; making a game that doesn't appeal to the masses is a better idea than doing it if you're ahead?

How can you talk about something that you haven't played according to reviews? 

Watch this:  I have never played GTA IV, but I declare it one of the greatest games of all time according to reviews.  Do you respect my opinion on the game?    

      I didn't say Nintendo was trying to protect sales during the Gamecube era.  I said they were probably more willing to take chances on risquier fare back then because they weren't trying to protect sales like they most likely are now when every core game that they have in release is an update in a decades old series, most hardcore series are either conversions of Gamecube games to Wii (or made by Grasshopper Studios), and they love to hype each new party or Wiii series games that they are releasing instead of coming up with an edgier new core ip.

I would say that being ahead and thought of as the family friendly console would probably give them reservations about making a game with lapdancing in it and promoting it heavilly.

Yeah, I thought GTA IV deserved its review scores or at least it didn't deserve nearly as much criticism as it later received.  It was an apt social criticism of America at the time while spinning a more serious story than San Andreas.  And its European gangsters actually had substance rather than the hip-hop modelled characters of SA.

I know what you were saying and I'm saying that it doesn't make sense.  What I am saying is that Nintendo can take all of the chances in the worlsd with a game like Eternal Darkness now.  More than they could have back then.  Most hardcore games are made by Grasshopper Studios or conversions of Gamecube games?  What about Manhunt 2, HoTD : Overkill, or Madworld?  Those games don't fit into that mold.

HoTD: Overkill starts out with a stripper on a pole and that was promoted on television.

I don't act like I know anything about GTA IV because I don't base my opinions on a game by what reviewers tell me.



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