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Squilliam said:
joeorc said:
Squilliam said:

Multicore programming has come a long way since 2005. There are numerous off the shelf tools to make things easier which simply didn't exist back then and programmer familiarity is many orders of magnitude higher. Furthermore there are numerous off the shelf parts which outpace the current DX9 consoles in power efficiency, cost and performance like for instance the Ontario processor from AMD on 40nm TSMC which includes a reasonably strong GPU and a 4 core out of order X86 processor within a 25W thermal envelope.

and those very same processor's are still expensive for the consumer. after you package..Nintendo will not be able to gain a big tech advantage over the xbox360 or the PS3 between now and 2011 without it costing an arm and a leg to the consumer without eating heavy cost's.

something Nintendo has a history in not doing.


You could say the same for the Cell when IBM sold them directly and inside servers. Anyhow price discrimination is alive and well within the semi-conductor industry. Take server chips for instance, they cost THOUSANDS each, and yet the retail model is mere hundreds and the actual margins on the chip itself at retail is often over 100% more than the fabrication costs.

Nintendo doesn't need a chip which will even run native X86 code without a recompile so theres no conflict of interest for say AMD to gimp/rework the instruction decode or you know add more registers or funny things like that because the money Nintendo would pay them and the volume are both high enough to justify this. HP couldn't exactly turn around and complain if the chip is technically X86 non compliant now can they?

it's not the same thing with CELL

Remember Cell was not just Ibm's it was also's Toshiba's and Sony's.

this is where Nintendo has to go outside and shop, what ever price is set that's what Nintendo has to go with. yes they can have a chip made for them , but it still all bois down to how much Nintendo is willing to spend.The next Wii replacement is not like their handheld's and if it does this will be one of the thing's that's would be a question, would Nintendo make a system they would take a hit on in a sizable way. Which i doubt it very much.the hardware will be powerful for a Nintendo system but as for it being very robust, I doubt it will surpass the technology in the xbox360 or the ps3 if they intend to launch in 2011 it would just be too expensive to do so.

Nintendo could but i very much doubt it the way the Wii is selling. the handheld market is not like the system's that are directed for your living room.

They still have to get what ever price is set by the manuf. so still between now and 2011 it's still going to be expensive. for what your trying to think Nintendo will be able to release without costing an arm and a leg, yesa they could do it but I doubt it very much. remember it's about the software.



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