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MARCUSDJACKSON said:

and regardless of what my implications are. if i add something about large financial firms in my post it can't be dismissed.

I beg to differ. Your exact words were: "he didn't have a chance. it took 8 yr's to get a surpluse under clinton, one yr' to blow the surpluse under Bush, 8 yr's to kill not just the American economy but the global economy under Bush. (and several large finacial firms)". That is a gross oversimplification at best, and adding the phrase "large financial firms" doesn't somehow make it magically unassailable.