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Solid_Snake4RD on 14 June 2010
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jarrod said:
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SONY owns much more than 25% in blu-ray sales,don't just go on bullshiting.SONY bore the biggest loss on BLU-RAY and also sacfrificed their biggest brand name at that time to make it succesfull.also blu-ray just became successful because of PS3.

Sony's the 2nd largest license holder in the Blu-ray Group, right behind Matsushita (Panasonic) and right ahead of Philips.  And honestly, they're likely nowhere close to 25% each... 


they are

 

u think SONY bore all the losses for them?

Sony didn't bear ALL the losses, though they did essentially sacrifice their PlayStation business as trojan to kill HD-DVD.  That was Sony's miscalculation alone though (they thought PS3 would lift BD, not that BD would sink PS3), Panasonic, Philips, Hitachi, Samsung, LG and the other founding members of the BDA aren't going to hand Sony their royalties out of pity.  Sony has a big investment and significant holdings in the format, but they aren't even the biggest taker, and there's pretty much no way any one single company involved is getting as much as 25% of the pie alone.


SO u think SONY thought that even with BDPS3 high price PS3 was gonnabe number one place from the start?.............lol

 

SONY,PHILIPS,PANASONIC are the owners of BLU-RAY.no other company gets anything

oh and it was SONY decision to put BD in PS3,IT was but it was at the cost of more royalties.What if SONY didn't put BD in blu-ray,nobody would have gotten anything so SONY would have the highest share ahnds down

 

miscalculations just down't happen like that when investing BILLIONS

 

HITACHI,SAMSUNG,LG get nothing.they were just the consortium members that came along to support and had a few of their says in customising for their BD products

 

like them many had started DVD consortium too but only 9 original companies that made the format got the royalties

The BDA collects royalties.  Panasonic, Sony & Philips are the biggest license holders in it (in THAT order) but Hitachi, Samsung, LG, Thomson, Pioneer, Sharp and MIT are all also founding members (founding as in 2002).  They split the royalties, after the forum's taken in operational costs.

And there was absolutely no "royalty-trade-off" for the format's inclusion in PS3, if there were it'd have been reported throughout the industry.  And yes Sony thought they'd be #1, their arrogance and hubris was at an all time high, with comments from company execs saying they could sell PS3 for the first six months with zero games if they wanted, and that consumers should get a second job if the price was too high for them.

Sounds to me like you should do a little research here and stop making things up...


there are no royalty trade offs but if SONY was only receiving a low share then why would they invest and lose the most.

like if you had 70% in a business you were running you would put in more effort and time and hard work,but if it was only 20% you would be very lazy.

founding members don't get anything,they are just their to support.if they like a format and its specs they support it as in the future they are going to be selling it

oh i did my research,all those figes out there are just rumors and shit  thoughts of the many analyst.

 

".  And yes Sony thought they'd be #1, their arrogance and hubris was at an all time high, with comments from company execs saying they could sell PS3 for the first six months with zero games if they wanted, and that consumers should get a second job if the price was too high for them."

you really think they would say we are pricing it high and making loss and even damaging our brand and doing it so that other BD members profit and also that are shareholders suffers

how many times Nintendo in the GC and 64 era and MS in the last two gen bullshitted people with that kind of info,many many times