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Darc Requiem said:
Rpruett said:
dtewi said:
Rpruett said:


Far from it.  I have no intent to troll.  I own every Nintendo console dating back to NES (Although a damn power surge fried my NES). (On a personal sense, I will say I've been disappointed by Gamecube / Wii ) but loved my N64. Regardless,  I'm actually not talking as much about Super Mario Galaxy 2 not being a good game.  I've never said a word about the differences between Galaxy vs Galaxy 2.  It's a sequel, if you liked Galaxy you should like Galaxy 2.   They should be very similar. 

My talking point,  was in vein of the entire 3D Mario series (Although IMHO it's not limited to the 3D Mario series, I have legitimate beefs with Smash Brothers for Wii as well.).   I don't believe Mario has to stop being about jumping, nor do I believe Gran Turismo has to be more than driving.  I do believe that Gran Turismo has made thousands upon thousands of little changes that have had an effect on the gameplay of the game.  And furthermore it's developers have really pushed the limits visually.   

I feel that the Mario series has really stagnated in this regard.  I mean, Mario should be about jumping, but do we really need the same triple jump, etc in a Mario released 14 years later?   I feel like it's time to move on from some gameplay elements that were 'awesome', 'never before seen', etc back in 1996 and start re-tooling the franchise for the future.

Mario Sunshine was a radical departure. And Galaxy introduced huge concepts which change every level.

I seriously don't know what you want from Nintendo.

On a simplistic sense?  Something that is still true to Mario but is new.  I want a new Mario game,  not a Mario game that controls the same as the last 4..Over a 14 year time span.  I feel all Mario since 64 have been very comparable.


Give that post why in Gods name did you bring up Gran Turismo. GT5 may break the trend but GT has been the same game since PS1. The graphics have just gotten better.


I didn't bring up Gran Turismo.  I merely responded to it. 

Although, Gran Turismo is Driving Sim.  It's ideally trying to achieve "Real Life Simulation".  It's bound by hardware far more than Mario or many other game types.  Like I have said, Gran Turismo's may have been the same in many ways but there have been, (I would wager)  thousands of minor tweaks, changes, etc for the sake of making them more realistic and striving for a step closer to realism.  Additionally, you now have 3D Gran Turismo aspirations and what appears to be shaping up as the best graphics in the industry currently. 

Cosmetically, not too much has changed in Gran Turismo (You still drive around a track and try for first place).  Although fully detailed, life like interiors provide a whole other perspective of driving, a full-fledged online mode (Allow for competition with people across the world),thousands of different cars, thousands of control tweaks (On the development side) which give the games a far more life-like handling scheme, damage modeling (for a more realistic presentation), dynamic weather conditions, etc. 

 

I would certainly say that the Gran Turismo series is drastically different (In terms of how realistic it is) from the 1997 version.  I don't think I would say that Mario of present day has differentiated itself enough from Mario 64.  Little Big Planet is a good launching point for a totally different direction in terms of platforming than Mario and to me that is what bothers me with Nintendo.   We haven't got a fresh idea (Like LBP) provided.   And for the king of Platformers....I think that's pretty disappointing.