What is your take on creationism/creationists?

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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

headshot91 said:

UN hand picked the scientists. Yes you are right. And if you look at their credentionals, you'll see they were picked for their outstanding contributions to thei field...

And OT, its funny that you introduce "rather ridiculous for a bunch of people in the forum to call people who believe in creationism.. brainwashed", well that's because they are. If you believe in God, it's fine. But if you believe in creationism, and reject evolution then you are an idiot, no question.

Well genius, when the organization that is part of the controversy goes and "picks" an apparent independent panel to investigate something, common sense usually delegates to us that it's going to be propaganda, but I mean go ahead and keep drinking the kool-aid.

How are you an idiot, if you reject evolution? Please explain because there's a large majority of people that do. I'm not saying that creationism is a fact, I just find it's rather ignorant to call people idiots when the don't share the same theories.Evolution is still a theory last time I checked :)

This is a tired, tired old line that simply serves to highlight people's misunderstanding of the word.  Here is a list of some of the more famous theories in science that I pulled from a quick Google search.

1. The Atomic Theory
2. The Theory of Matter and Energy: Conservation of Matter and Energy
3. The Cell Theory
4. The Germ Theory
5. The Theory of Plate Tectonics
6. The Theory of Evolution
7. The Big Bang Theory
8. Chaos Theory
9. The “Gaia” Theory of a Sustainable Earth which is illustrated with the idea of Spaceship Earth
10. The Theory of Quantum Mechanics
11. The Theory of Special Relativity which subsumes The Theory of General Relativity which subsumes Newtonian theories of motion
12. The Photon Theory of Light Energy and its speed of light
13. The Theory of Electromagnetism as begun by Maxwell and continued with the work of others
14. The Theory of Radioactivity or Nuclear Theory
15. The Theory of Molecular Bonds
16. The Theory of States of Matter—or is this part of the Atomic Theory and the Molecular Bond Theory?
17. The Theory of Thermodynamics—hey, I guess this theory takes care of the States of Matter and the Molecular Bond theories.
18. The Theory of Homeostasis within Living Organisms
19. The Constructivist Theory of Learning
20. The theories of self and development of mental processes in the brain.
21. Theory of Gravity

They are theories in the sense that we don't assume that they can explain all characteristics of the phenomena being described, rather we know they can explain and predict many aspects of said phenomena, but hope that one day there will be a theory that gives us a better or more complete description.

People don't question gravity or the theory that describes it, yet it has long been supersceded by the theory of General Relatively which far better describes gravity, the practical applications of which affect such mundane tasks as planning aircraft flight paths and GPS tracking. Nonetheless, Newton's Universal Theory of Graviation was the best description of gravity that we had for over 200 years and it's still 'good enough' to describe many aspects of gravity.

Saying "Natural selection is just a theory" belies the fact that even if there is a theory that superscedes it, the theory is undoubtedly going to have much in common with natural selection and is intensely unlikely to include intelligent design.

It may be just a theory, but creationism is just an idea, albeit a popular one.