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Smashchu2 said:

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bugrimmar said:
now a comparison with LBP? LBP was the game of the year. stellar reviews across the board. super hyped in every game expo there was.

modnation is.. 82 on meta, not hyped by any means, and it doesn't have mario on the cover. whatever fellas, you can damage control all you want, but the fact is modnation is a flop. mark my words. it won't cross a million, unless it's bundled with every PS3 in the world.

and i ask you guys again, 50k is not a flop? since when? seriously.

Holy crap, quit trolling.

How is an average of over 80 on Metacritic now considered mediocre? The fact that MNR wasn't hyped that much means it has a much better opportunity to sell through consistent sales and word of mouth than many other games (which I expect it to). It's 50k in one territory. Assuming it has a debut of about 70k in America (based on preorders), that's a worldwide launch of over 100k. Not too bad for a title that was never really that hyped in the first place. Plus, there's been a dozen commercials for it. It can only grow.

Either way, stop trolling so badly and just go away. The debut was just fine. Just because it sold a modest amount in the first week in one territory doesn't mean it's automatically a flop (if that was true, many hit games this generation would be flops).

Maybe you were just being incredibly sarcastic and unfunny, which amazingly, I would prefer.

One thing to point out is it is indeed tracking under what Little Big Planet did. The game sold about 333k in it's first week and 176k in the Others region alone. ModRacer Nation did 50k, less than a third of Little Big Planet's sales. If we are to assume that thrend continues, it would be at about 107,483. Decent, but since most games have huge drop offs after a few weeks, this is a bad opening. Little Big Planet's sales started to fall after a while and ended up at about 30k a week. If this game isn't going to come out of the game strong, then I don't think it will end strong.

If allmost all the PS3 games weren't "bottle rocket" titles, then 50K in one region wouldn't be so bad. But since the first week is the strongest week, these sales are rather poor. It might break 1 million, but I don't seeing it selling over 1.5mil ever.

i don't doubt that MNR hasn't done particularly well, even if it is only for one region and a couple of days. that's unfortunate because it is an excellent game.

It isn't a hardcore title that has massive upfront sales, i think it's going to be more of a casual long legged game, so hopefully sales will continue and perhaps rise into the future. it certainly deserves it. it has that same giggle factor that LBP has.

Neither of them are "casual," games (which means nothing as the term is throw around too often). I tend to distinquish two typeds of games coming out (and I'll use an old Jeff Foxworthy joke to do it)

First, you've got "Bottle Rocket," games. These games come on the charts strong and fall off. Like a bottle rocket, they go PSSSHHHHHHH and then pop. Oh, wow. Impressive for only a short time. They tend to fall with in 10 weeks of their release. Note that these games may not be big hitters, but the bulk of their sales are in the first few weeks, esspecially the 1st or 2nd week. Most of the games coming out now for the PS3 and 360 are great examples of bottle rockets.

The other is "Diesel Engines." They may start slow, but they go for a long, long time. They tend to sit in the top 50 charts for about 50 weeks before they may disappear, and they could potentially reappear again. Nintendo's titles are all Diesel engines. Just Dance is a great example of one. Note that these titles may still start strong if they come from high profile series (like Mario Kart), but their defining characteristic is they never go away.

Little Big Plantet did 51% of it's sales in the first 10 weeks and then 61% in the first 20. From then on, it sold very low, usually uinder 20k, until it got a small resurgance latter which was another 5%. This is not a legs titles as it relies on quick burst to make it's sales. Only 1/3 was time working for the title.

LBP sold because it was a 2D Platformer. Not much of another reason. If MNR does wall, it's because people like kart racers. So I don't see time working for MNR that much. It wont put it to outstanding numbers.

i like your analogy, but i do see sales of MNR picking up over time, for that exact reason - people do like kart racers, and its one of a few games where you can play 4 player split screen. but we will just have to wait and see.

i certainly hope it does well, as a game its going to rely on having a good community online to race against, so hopefully it'll do well, and sales pick up becuase of that.