Apple is now worth more than Microsoft

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nightsurge said:

Grimes said:

nightsurge said:

Grimes said:

Building PCs is no longer the cheap option. Big companies buy their components in huge quantities, so they get the best prices.

In addition, you can't build a compact, silent pc on your own. Every part has to be customized to utilize space efficiently. I've looked into finding a completely quiet PC before and the iMac wound up being the least expensive option that fit my environment. It's a great minimalist computer. It's dead quiet, the only noise is the hard drive most of the time, even then it's well muffled inside the aluminum case.

You must not look at the right places.  I can build any kind of computer I want.  Quiet, gaming, HTPC, small form factors, servers, etc.  I can buy pretty much every part from Newegg or Amazon and still come up way cheaper than buying a prebuilt from Dell, HP, Sony, Gateway, etc.  I'll even end up with higher quality parts and better warranties when building my own!

There are literally thousands of fan options available to find the quietest/best fans.  Thousands of cases available to find the quietest and best form factor for your needs.  Building is still the cheap option and the ONLY way to get exactly what you want in every way imaginable.

No, you can't just build an iMac with off the shelf components. Everything is crammed in there like sardines. The boards are custom to fit the parts in the minimum of space. Show me a case where everything fits into a 1 inch thick space, including the monitor, which requires no cooling fans that I could put together in less than an hour.

Also, I don't have time to spend hours and hours to spend building computers. The majority of people don't either. I've put computers together before, it just isn't even close to being worth it anymore. I have no enjoyment in building computers, it's about as fun as cleaning toilets to me. I'd rather spend my time doing something I enjoy.

Oh no, so you found one example of something that can't be done with custom builds.  That eliminated like .00001% of the potential custom builders!  Darn!

You are clearly not a PC building type to begin with.  Not even the PC type by the looks of it.  Millions of people build their own computers each year.  The custom PC market and build-yourself market keeps getting bigger because it will always be cheaper and is the only way to get what you want.  All it takes is a few hours on a free afternoon to build your first computer.  After that it is all the same, basically, and only takes an hour or 2.

Can you pick any graphics card or memory you want from any manufacturer and swap it out at will in your iMac?  No?  Shame.  What can you do when your iMac gets outdated?  Can you re-use the screen, the casing, and just update parts like CPU, motherboard, GPU, HDD, RAM, etc?  No?  Shame.  Looks like you're stuck just buying a whole new iMac and wasting even more money every 3-5 years.  Apple is pretty much the worst when it comes to locked down, proprietary hardware design to keep all the upgrades and repairs restricted to Apple certified technicians.  Especially their iMacs.

Most people love creating their own items for use and being resourceful with gaining knowledge and experience at new tasks.  They especially love saving money.  Then you have other people who just buy it premade and don't care about costs or aren't technologically inclined.

Actually my feeling is that the custom build market has shrunk down a lot compared to where it was 10 years ago.

Back then you were really saving a lot of money custom building your PC.

But while you can still save some cash these days the saving aren't on the same scale ( Dell and the likes have put a lot of pressure on parts makers and they get chips and other parts at a heavily discounted price compared to what you would have to pay for them) and most people actually stopped building their owns...

I'm saying that based on my experience. I've been working in the software industry for now 12 years and when I started I knew many coworkers that built their own PC and the huge majority of them have shifted to pre- built over the years......