Vietnam won or lost?

[mrstickball]

Garnett said:

mrstickball said:

Inversely, Russia and the UK would not of won WW2 without the US. You know, it was a 2-front war, and Britian was getting its collective rear-end handed to it by the Japanese in the Pacific. The Russians did virtually nothing until 1945.

Ultimately, WW2 was won by the allies because of all 3. Had one not participated, they would have had a much more difficult time at it - although I could imagine it being won if it was the US + USSR with Britian being neutral.

The Russians were on the offensive since 1943, against Germany. USSR never attacked Japan, though they said they would they never did.

 

@themanwithnoname

Hitler invaded Russia because they were enemies, Hitler and Stalin never liked eachother but both agreed to be at peace. Funny thing is German troops were doing good until Stalingrad and Winter, their tanks never started in the cold harsh Russian winter, while the Russian tanks could start in -30 weather.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War_%281945%29

USSR attacked manchuria in August 1945, and killed an estimated 80,000 Japanese troops. I'd consider that an attack.

@FinalFan - I was talking about the USSR's involvement in the Pacific theater, not Europe. The Soviets did nothing until 1945.

About the Stalin-Hitler comparisons - yes, Stalin was awful, but again, I believe that Hitler's guidance led to more tactical mistakes than Stalin. I'm not saying Stalin was great because, as you said, he jailed and killed a lot of dissenting soldiers and leaders. However, when it comes down to it, Hitler still made the major blunders that led to Germany's defeat.