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kowenicki said:
zune hd is a sensational music player... much better than ipods.

screen is amazing, best there is.

Zune software is a joy after itunes.

apps.... not so good. Lots of unofficial apps but not many from MS as of yet. This will improve in the next 12 months though.

kowenicki, since you're from the UK, may I ask a question?

Are you able to log into Zune marketplace? If I try to log in from the Zune Software on my PC, I always get the error message "Sorry, can't sign in right now". I'm afraid that's because of my IP address which is not from the US (I have imported a Zune HD and changed everything to US English on my Windows, so I'm out of ideas how to solve this problem). I was able to download firmware 4.5, though.

@OP: If you don't need apps, Zune HD gets my full recommendation.