PS EYE can do what NATAL can:

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thismeintiel said:

slowmo said:

thismeintiel said:

This whole argument over the tech is pretty dumb.  Especially, if the end result is the same thing.  Just like the Wiimote and Move, it will give you the same end result, albiet Move is more accurate.  Natal will give us the same end result as the PSEye.  Though, I have concerns it won't be as accurate.  And that is definitely not based on some Sony bias, but on every single vid and demo we have seen thus far.  And the fact that most, if not all, those vids are from before the processor was removed doesn't help dispell those concerns. 

@ iron man

You really shouldn't get yourself so hyped up for Natal.  You may be setting yourself up for a huge letdown.  Epsecially, if MS doesn't fix the accuracy issues, and if all the games turn out to be casual titles that are only fun for 20 mins.  Besides, MS didn't invent Ricochet.  Starts at 0:35

 

 

Actually the argument is very valid, you're only saying it's dumb because the specific details of the technology show just how flawed the statement PS Eye can do what Natal can do is.  The resource cost it would take on processing time to do a full body 3D skeletal capture on a person with the PS Eye would be ridiculous.  The camera isn't capable of doing what Natal does in that regard and it certainly couldn't do it at 30FPS with as comparatively little latency as Natal. 

You have ZERO evidence of the release version of Natal to be so negative with regards to accuracy, latency or indeed its software catalogue.  You really should start being more gracious about Natal's tech because you're the one who could actually end up with egg on your face too.  Natal isn't hyped on these boards, just irrationally hated upon by the way.

The point is, they both do motion capture differently.  PS Eye doesn't need to do a full skeletal capture to achieve it's motion capture.  Its method also allows it to have a refresh rate of either 60 FPS or 120FPS.  Natal can do a skeletal capture.  But, in the end, it doesn't matter how Natal does motion capture, if it's not accurate. 

And you're right, I have no proof that the final version will be like it has been in videos.  That's why I'm not doing the fanboy thing and saying, "Natal sucks!" or "Natal will be crap!"  I'm just looking at it with a skeptic's eye.  The vids I have seen have had tracking issues and they were from before the internal processor was taken out.  Now, the 360 has to do all the calculations, which is said to take 15% of it's processing power.  I just don't have much faith in the product.  Of course, there is still a chance MS can pull it off.

Also, on the flip side, these guys don't have proof that Natal will be incredibly accurate or offer tons of new gaming experiences.  Yet, that doesn't stop them from hyping this thing like the second coming of Christ.  You saying it isn't hyped kinda shows your bias.  Plus, I'm just saying it COULD lead to an ultimate letdown.

Thats fair enough but people act on here like there can be no positive hyping of Natal which is madness.  For every thing we see that could be bad or get worse, the flip side is it can get better before release.  I agree we shouldn't hype Natal as a second coming but by the same token I'm not going to stand by and watch people irrationally hate on it for no reason either, which I personally think is both a sensible and fair opinion.