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RolStoppable said:
Porcupine_I said:
RolStoppable said:

I stayed out of Move threads since quite some time now, precisely because I know that it's just going to be same thing all over again. Some people choose what they want to believe even if the evidence presented to them goes against this belief, like Sony's very own statements.

You were asking the question what would Nintendo fans make stop posting in every Move thread and I gave you an answer why Move even became such a bid deal despite a clear lack of interest for the Move's games from pretty much all sides. The main problem was and is not Sony making a product with games that look a lot like the Wii, it's the double standards that are thrown around by some Sony fans. On one hand they argue that Move is not a copy only to then go into a Natal thread and call it a copy of Sony's Eyetoy. Or how motion controls are good to have now, but previously weren't.

This problem isn't going to go anytime soon, if ever. It can be ignored, but that doesn't mean it will go away. And for that reason most Move threads are bound to degenerate into a "copy or not a copy" debate. Although that's only going to be a real problem for those people who actually want to discuss the Move's games which, judging by amount of posts of the official thread, aren't that many.

You say "some people choose what they want to believe", and right after that you state that there is "a clear lack of interest for the Move's games" which i find interesting, as someone else might choose to believe that "it is useless to discuss games or controllers that aren't released yet" or maybe "the threads are relatively short because some people know they would get banned for derailing them"

So many things to choose from.

But i agree with you, the problem won't go away anytime soon.

Your last sentence is interesting too though, because the way you worded it i could choose to believe that you are blaming the Nintendo fans to be the "problem" of the people who want to discuss the Move's games. Or what else could you mean?

Threads about upcoming PS3 games (big ones or ones that are expected to be big) usually have not much that trouble to reach a good amount of posts within a couple of weeks because Sony fans love the hype more than any other group on this forum. Move isn't just a new peripheral with one game, there have already been about a dozen of games shown off, so there should be plenty of material to discuss. I drew my conclusion that there isn't much interest in Move's games from the two aforementioned points.

In my very first response to you I said that the problem is twosided. It's Sony fans vehemently denying that Move is a copy or Nintendo fans trying to rub it in. The argument isn't always initiated by the same side, so both groups are to blame.

sorry for the late answer, i have been away.

 but i believe the argument has reached the stage of repeating itself anyway.

 in the end you said it right, it's all about what we choose to believe.

but at least you made a strong point for the sony fans by stating they are not as excited about motion controls as some nintendo fans claim them to be, by calling them hypocrites now that the move was announced! but in reality it seems the majority really didn't want any Motion controls after all.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’