The Real Cause of Islamic Fundamentalism is Hitler.

[Final-Fan]

ironman said:

Final-Fan said:
Wow, blast from the past! 
Quite franky, Halo reach, and moving into my apartment was a little more important than having you call me a lier based on nothing but your own fantasy of a world.
1.  Your "witness":  how many Muslims does he normally see in a given day at work?  How many of them REALLY didn't show up?  And how do you explain that THOUSANDS of Muslims could call in sick on the one day that a terrorist attack happened and no law enforcement agency picked up on this, nor anyone at a higher level than chain email sender (not even Faux News would dare air something this ridiculous, I trust)?
It's Rochester, and the IBM building is a mile long...I don't know if you know this, but Rochester has a large population of muslums, Quite a few work at the IBM building. I love how you try to discount my anecdotes as nothing more than a chain letter, you sir, are pathetic. My anectdotes come from a reputable source with first hand experiance, if you are too ignorant to think that such things are remotely possible, it's not my problem.    
2.  Your anecdote:  no I do not, not because your "view" "opposes" mine, but because you are showing a propensity for repeating crazy stories that are clearly false.  I was already skeptical but this makes me conclude that this particular story is also most likely false (although this is not a certainty). 
I hate to tell you this, but both stories are 100% true. Your conclusion that it is false is based on nothing but pure speculation, which is just pathetic.
3.  "I don't care".  Given that I am confident your story is grossly inaccurate, I don't really care HOW inaccurate it is.  Did you or someone along the line of the gossip that led to you exaggerate or distort the event, or did it not happen at all?  If the first, who and how many did so; if the second, who made it up?  I don't really care. 
You do care because you have reapetedly posted your rubbish trying to discredit what I say. like it or not, this stuff is real, it does happen, and the fact that you cannot seem to grasp the fact that Muslims are in no way perfect as the media would have you think is very telling about who you are as a person. Also, the "line of gossip" was a total of three people, and it was not gossip, it was a conversation that was very telling about who Muslims really are as a religion. 
4.  Anyone who says that any major religion doesn't have violent extremists is a fool.  Maybe she is one.  But Horowitz is a clown.  He strung her along until she gave an answer he wanted (or that sounded like something he could say was what he wanted) and then shut down the discussion.  Did she mean she was for Hezbollah, or for Jews in Israel, or for hunting down Jews in Israel?  He assumes #3.  We don't know because he cut her off.  And we don't know what the answer to her question is because he never got around to giving one. 
You are funny, you say Horowitz basically forced that woman to give him an answer...I'm sorry, but she stated quite clearly what she believes, and once again, you truly are ignorant if you believe that she doesn't want to eradicate the Jews, and that nobody could possibly believe this.

Now, I see that you are either too blind, or too ignorant to have a real conversation, so call me a lier if you want, but I know better, and i'm sure many others here do as well. I refuse to keep arguing with you about how factual my stories are. You can choose not to believe them if you wish, but the fact of the matter is There are many Muslims who wish to eradicate the Jews, that is an undeniable fact. As such, my original statement still holds true. If you wish to discuss that matter in a meaningful way without resorting to cheap shots about what news organizations I may or may not watch (once again, intolerant and ignorant...at best.) or directing the conversation away from it's original point, I'll be here, until then,you are not worth my time.

0.  I thought it had more to do with the fact that that news article came out recently and inflamed your outrage against Muslims and those who you perceive as their defenders, which reminded you of this thread.  Not that it matters. 

1.  I'm sure there are lots of Muslims that work there, but that's not relevant.  What's relevant is how many your source notices on a given day, since those are the only ones he could notice NOT being there on 9/11.  Also I love how you deflect the more important question of why no one else seemed to notice this.  "Liberal biased media ignored it" fails due to law enforcement's duty to investigate as well as the existence of Fox News. 

2.  Your assertion that they are 100% true is also speculation since you did not witness them

3.  I think you failed to understand what I meant by "I don't care".  Let me come at it from a different angle.  It only matters from the perspective of an individual incident.  It's not indicative, as you seem to think, of a plague of Muslim assaults on Jews in the USA.  To the extent that I cared I was curious about that incident, and then skeptical of it.  I now doubt it occurred as your story goes, and further investigation is much more work than it's worth to me.  So ... "I don't care". 

Also, how many would it take before it went from "cool story bro" to "gossip"?  Would seven be enough? 

4.  Did you even read what I wrote? 
--you say Horowitz basically forced that woman to give him an answer No (although he did).  I said he kept the dialogue going until he got one, at which point he didn't care about her or her question anymore and shut down the conversation. 
--she stated quite clearly what she believes No, she said "for it" and there were two or three things she could have meant by that.  Horowitz could have tried to nail her down to the worst one, which he clearly takes to be her meaning, but instead when she tries to go on he cuts her off. 
--you truly are ignorant if you believe that she doesn't want to eradicate the Jews, and that nobody could possibly believe this No no no no no.  I said "maybe she is one".  What that means is that ... maybe she is what you and Horowitz say.  How does that lead you to the belief that I think she couldn't possibly be what you say she is?  And that no one could possibly be that?  You're not even reading my post now, you're just looking at me and seeing some strawman. 

5.  At the risk of sounding like an elementary-schooler:  no, you're not worth my time, until you actually respond to me and not whatever boogeyman you see in me. 
--I've taken shots at Fox, but I'm actually using them as a grounding point here.  (See point 1.)  My shots at "chain emails" don't count since they aren't a news organization.  And if I was religious I would pray to God you don't use them as a source of news. 
--I know there are extremist Muslims who want to eradicate Jews -- enough to call them "many"; you and I simply strenuously disagree about the amount of Muslims who subscribe to this view. 
--I don't even recall what your "original point" was, although I hope it wasn't using your anecdote to claim that such hatred was systemic to Muslim communities in the US. 
--If you want to talk about distracting from the topic, check out the OP vs. your own contribution.