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vlad321 said:
stof said:
How is giving the developers money worse than not giving them money? You know your argument doesn't make any damn sense right? And yes, if they sell you something, it's yours. They don't own what's in my game stack, I do. Do you use the same argument for CD and DVD sales?

This again also ignores the fact that used game sales help fuel the industry. Many people wouldn't by a console if they couldn't buy used games, just as many people wouldn't buy new games if they couldn't later resell them.

Because you deprive them of money when you sell your game, on top of making money off their work. In the end they don't see money they should see, and in one case you make money off their work and in the other you don't. Games are not hardware. Same with movies and music.

That argument about improving the industry is just as valid for piracy. For example, the PSP would be doing far worse if it wasn't able to be unlocked.

When you buy the game you are buying the game burnt onto the disc.  Having the disc is having the right to play the game.  Yes I don't own the game in the sence that I can't rewrite a few things here or try and add content and then go off put that onto more discs and sell it to people.  But I can sell the disc that I bought to someone eles.  I could give it away.  Either way I can no longer play the game and someone else can.  Why should the publisher get paid again?     Now the Idea of making money off of it is a bit crazy.  If I were making money off of it that would mean someone paid me more for it than I paid for it.  I'm not saying that never happens but If i paid full price for a game why would someone pay me more for it?

Now if they don't want their to be used games they can go digital only.  Even then however what's to stop a person from letting other people play?  If all contect were digital only what would stop some people from swaping systems every so often to change games?

Piracy mean an unlimited number of people can play the game without paying for it.  Unlimited.  There can only be as many used games out there as there are physical copies of the game.  Piracy makes copies of the game out there that were never paid for at all.   The used game had to be bought new once. 

When I sell a game I no longer play I have money to buy other things be it games or other goods or services.  It's actuall money circulating in the economy.  When someone pirates they don't get money back.  Saving money is not the same as having money to spend.  You could pirate a million dollars worth of games but that doesn't mean you have a million to spend anywhere else.  Just mean you took stuff worth that much.