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STEKSTAV on 13 May 2010
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iWarMachine said:
STEKSTAV said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Gilgamesh said:
STEKSTAV said:
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nightsurge said:
Just so you know, PSP's estimate for last year was 15 million, too, before they adjusted it down 5 million to just 10 million after the Go flopped. They are simply way overestimating what affect PS Move will have. Also, MS doesn't do estimates, but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year.

Also, I believe this is the first time a PS3 estimate has not had to be adjusted down in order to be met so you shouldn't assume it will be correct based on one good year.

"but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year."

The most the X360 has sold in a year was 11 million which was in 2008, your saying it's going to sell 1 - 2 million more then that?! I don't think that's possible. First of all Halo, Gears and Fable are not system sellers, the only people that are going to buy them are the existing  X360 owners, we all know that. Second a price cut probably wouldn't make a big difference, I mean it's already selling at $200 and it's in it's 5th year, hell it was on sale for $130 for a while. At the most all they can do is drop both SKU's by 50 bucks and I doubt that'll make a huge difference.

Now for the Slim, no one knows if it's real or not so you can't say it's coming if it's not confirmed. And Natal is the wild card, it could do nothing to sales or help it, it won't make a huge impact. I'm skeptical that Natal and Move will do anything to hardware sales.

From the looks of things the PS3 is going to sell very well in 2010, it's already up like 35% from last year, and the big guns aren't even out yet, the PS3's biggest system seller GT5 should be releasing by the end of the year, that'll sell a ton of PS3's.


What are the big guns? Besides GT5?

The Last Guardian, FFVXIII, FFXIV, Socom 4 (going to be big, way better then Navy seals), Modnation racer, Agent, Twisted Metal, and then all those other sequels for the existing PS3 owners.

I love how you said that halo , gears and fable arent system sellers and then go on to name games you think are system sellers when the fact is they arent.

You never disappoint

Something like that yeah.

Maybe if he had mentioned some PS3 3D advances, price cuts or LBP2, Killzone 2 and RE3 or whatever. Maybe a Move systemseller theory. But to go with Agent and MNR as a means to hit 15m ps3s, while a the same time down talk halo and gears :)

why do you think that Halo:Reach (the 3rd Halo Game on the platform) Gears 3 (the 3rd Gears Game on the platform) or Fable 3 (the 2nd Fable game on the platform) will be huge system sellers like Agent, The Last Guardian, GT5, or SOCOM4....

The only big weapon from MS imo, it's Natal...

While Sony has all those games i mentioned before, plus Move, plus 3D.

The same reason why i think R3, Killzone 3, LBP2, inFamous 2 and GT5 will be systemsellers. They're good games that people want to play. The fans of those games most likely already own a PS3 due to all the exposure they've had in the media. Just as fans of gears of war and Halo already own a 360. But there's always people that can't afford the initial pricetags of the consoles, or dont see the point in spending money on two HD consoles with a similar library. And the fact that the consoles have been out for 4-5 years means that the launch 10-12 year olds are now in an age where they can purchase the consoles with their own money etc. These are the people that makes games systemsellers this far into the generation. Not the initial fanbase that purchase the console off of brand loyalty or previous gen catalogues.

And the marketing has everything to do with the success of a console aswell. And microsoft is very good at marketing their console. The Natal hype itself is bound to make people pick up a 360 even though they know very little about the prodcut itself.

So to say that the 360 got nothing going for it and that Gears 3 is nothing compared to Agent is not a good assessment imo.