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TWRoO said:
Joelcool7 said:

As usual, all this mostly my opinion, going against your opinion

I beg to differ with all those saying Wii has better games. I purchased over 30 first party titles for my GameCube while on my Wii I have like 7 first party titles and about 13 games in total for my Wii.
I purchased 14 games for my Gamecube (well 13 actually, as I had already sold the GC when I bought Eternal Darkness, but it still counts for GC) 6 of them published by Nintendo.... I already have 23 Wii titles on disc (10 Nintendo) and 9 Wiiware titles (3 Nintendo) and there are a lot more that I haven't bought yet due to low funds. 

That is less then one third of the amount of GameCube games I bought. The Wii doesn't have Donkey Kong Thank God ,
StarFox Adventures was good, but not worth a sequel
and Pikmin Well it has the NPC versions (well only the 1st in America) but as they are essentially GC games they don't count... however Pikmin 3 will release eventually, and the title of the thread does say Which system has/WILL HAVE better games.
three franchises that made the GameCube for me. Then all the dozens of other great first party titles. I mean seriously pit Pokemon Colleseum and XD against Battle Revolution and tell me which game was better. I have no idea, I don't see much interest in the proper Pokemon games, never mind some crappy fighting games. 

Seriously the GameCube had several big titles that the Wii lacks, True, but the reverse is also true, although considering you can play those big titles on the Wii anyway
a proper Mario RPG. No Paper Mario RPG. Well those don't interest me, and I guess Super Paper Mario isn't counting in your books, but what did the GC have as a MarioRPG that wasn't a Paper Mario?
Only a single MarioParty, Again, thank God Pit Animal Crossing GCN against AnimalCrossing:CityFolk and forget about online to make the battle fair and try telling me that CityFolk is a better game. Then what about Pikmin, I owned both Pikmin and Pikmin 2.

Yes their are several great casual games on the Wii I won't deny GameCube didn't appeal to the casuals but as a console it had better installments of almost every franchise. Zelda (TP and WW)Agreed so far, Windwaker is awesome (TP is stalemate) , Donkey Kong (JungleBeat,Konga)Ugh , StarFox (StarFox:Assualt), Battalion Wars  (Battalionwars).Well I haven't played the 1st, but BWii is awesome (120 hours of it)  Pokemon (Collesium/XD) ugh, MarioParty(4,5,6,7),  AnimalCrossing (AC:CF). Paper Mario (Thousand year door), MetroidPrime (MetroidPrime 1,2). Afraid I haven't played the first two Primes yet, working on finding MPTrilogy for a price I can justify.

I admit MarioGalaxy and NewSuperMarioBros beat the heck out of Mario Sunshine. But name one other Nintendo core franchise where the Wii title beats its GameCube counter part?

Mario Kart

I will admit there are some things from the GameCube I would like to see again on the Wii, these being Eternal Darkness, Wave Race and more importantly F-Zero, but the Wii has things the GameCube never got too: Endless Ocean being the major one, as well as Wii Sports. And while I am very doubtful the Wii will get Eternal Darkness or Wave Race, it will (crosses fingers) get an F-Zero, and a Pikmin, and is getting another Metroid, and Zelda Wii should help even things out for that franchise.

Exactly , WaveRace, EternalDarkness , F-Zero, Donkey Kong , StarFox, Pikmin could go on and on with great first party franchises availible on GameCube but totally forgotten on Wii. Endless ocean is a fairly successful new franchise and the Wii franchise is also fairly successful. But they do not make up for the total lack of first party software.

Now someone else mentioned MarioKartWii being better then DoubleDash. I beg to differ I preffered Double Dash multiplayer to the online in Wii any day. That being said I think MarioKartDs beat both because it had the best multiplayer modes from DoubleDash and Wii.

Then others said Brawl Beats Melee. I'd say personally I liked both games alot and at the time of Melee I think I had just as much fun playing Melee as I did Brawl. The online mode in Brawl sucked monkey balls, the inclusion of a better single player mode with co-op definatly made the game better today. However I would say Melee was pretty good.

Try to explain to me anyone how the Wii missing like five key first party franchises, with several poorer sequals to the other franchises can possibly be considered a superior system? Just look at my comparisons above and tell me how the Wii possibly out performs the GameCube as a first party platform.

Now some would argue the Wii is not a first party platform like the GameCube was. I have to admit I own more third party Wii games then I did GameCube. But even the third party GameCube games (Sonic) was better on GameCube then on Wii.

I just can't see how anyone can claim the Wii has a better first party catalogue then the GameCube. You have to be a total casual gamer to be blinded that badly. The Wii is a casual console while the GameCube was a more hardcore console. The Wii mom's grandma's daughters and grandpa's play for about an hour a week. Some kids may play their Wii's 5-hours a week or so. The GameCube was a console that appealed to the fans it had every Nintendo franchise known to man almost and represented the franchises well.

This is a case of new gamers versus old gamers and then the hardcore fanboys. The new Gamers love WiiSports, WiiPlay, WiiFit, WiiMusic...etc...etc.. while the older fans enjoy Donkey Kong, F-Zero , Starfox, WaveRace , 1080 ,Pokemon , PaperMario etc...etc... then theirs the Nintendo fanboys who love anything Nintendo does and will always back the latest Nintendo platform.

Which are you? a fanboy, new/casualgamer or old school gamer who enjoys Nintendo's established franchises?



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer