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Garnett said:
Kantor said:
Garnett said:
Kantor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
I believe the Illuminati still exists (opposed from the old bavarian Illuminati) and yes I have seen them being used in games. This world is controlled by a minority of people and I'm not talking kings and queens here.

I'm sure it is. They just don't worship the anti-Christ or plan to enslave everybody and...and what, exactly?

People say all of this about the Illuminati wanting to enslave all of humanity, start wars for oil, and lead everyone in worship of the anti-Christ. Well...

1) How many illuminati are there, exactly? Controlling 7 billion people isn't exactly easy. Hitler (yay, Godwin's law) needed 3 million SA to control his country of...what, 60 million? And a rather densely populated country it was. He was also helped by a fair amount of nationalism (you can't have nationalism when you have no enemies or competitors of any kind). Hitler's goal was to populate Europe with Aryan Germans. Not a very noble cause, but a sensible cause. You can see his train of thought: Aryans > All. Aryans should rule world.

2) I've mentioned this before: Why would they start a war for oil when they control the world? Honestly, if they don't control the Middle East, they're pretty shitty megalomaniacs. They have all of the oil they need. And what are they going to do with this oil? Burn it to appease Satan? Please.

3) It all comes down to this worship of the Anti-Christ. Look, only 1/3 of the world is Christian. A fraction of that third is pious enough to believe in the anti-Christ. And, again, if there is an anti-Christ, there is a Christ, and Christ is presumably more powerful, because we're not all up to our necks in lava and building a monument to Satan. So, if the Illuminati take over, Christ (who loves humanity and died to save it) will come again, destroy them all, and we'll all be fine.

1. The high leaders of the illuminate are leading it, but they hire other people who are also illuminate members to control other members, for instance if they wanted illuminate symbols in a movie they would just tell the famous director to put it in and no one else would know or think about it.

 

2. Who said they start wars for oil?

 

3. They dont worship they Anti Chris, but instead they worship satan, If Jesus Chris is the *real* god and believe in another relgion is a sin then they are doing their job, to have you sin against the lord. They also do this by putting it in sins and movies and soforth.

1) And why do these people help them? Huge amounts of money? Who are these Illuminati leaders? Because they must be very wealthy indeed. Bill Gates? Carlos Slim? Mukesh Ambani? The Duke of Westminster?

2) Someone mentioned it a while back. And since they control the world, surely they masterminded the invasion of the Middle East?

3) Watching a sin in a movie is not a sin. Breaking the laws of God is a sin. If you repent for your sin and are genuinely sorry (because we all sin), the sin is forgiven. That is my knowledge of Christianity. Thus, no wrongdoing committed unknowingly could possibly be a sin.

1. The main leader is satan and its about more than money. If your part of the Illuminati your guaranteed famous and rich. The minute you dont do what they say they take it all back.

2. All the wars are a big distraction so that people wont think, if people are to busy worrying about wars and terrorist attacks then they wont think about anything else.

3. You dont watch the sin directly, but it is there. If you dont know about it then you cannot ask forgiveness. That and its a way of the devil pissing God off. Its like if i told humans to stay in shape and you opened up a mcdonalds. Its not their fault that there getting fat and its not your fault directly either.

1. I do not know where you got this information. In the secret societies of old, if you broke code you were murdered and not a trace of evidence would be left as to who did it. I'm more inclined historically to believe that this is still the case. When people express biblical opinions it tends to send an argument off kilter.

2. Wars are not a distraction, if you study your history wars it is great disasters and the uproars they bring that cause distraction. Wars exist because people believe and are willing to die for a belief, but the people in power use peoples belief to send them to war for their own personal desires.

3. You sin everyday, according to Christianity in prayer not only do you give thanks but you should ask for forgiveness for all transgressions whether or not you noticed it. It's about admitting your imperfection and submitting to your god. Think about that.