Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
None of that is true. There's two canonical interpretations of Hell.
1. Hell is a place of fire and brimstone and darkness where you're alone and burninng by yourself for all eternity.
2. Hell is Hades, a place where the impue go to partake in an eternal rest until God calls them up in judgment day. This version of Hell is basically like sleeping for a billion years.
That's all.
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Actually he is kind of right (even though I believe he is depicting the Muslim view of Hell rather than the Christian).
"The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books." (Rev 20:12)
Hints at different levels/lengths of punishment.
Also, not everyone may burn in Hell forever:
"And someone came to Him and said, 'Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?'" (Matt 19:16)
Hints that eternal life is something you obtain, it's not the default state of man to live forever.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." (John 3:16)
"And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever." (Rev 20:10)
This passage tells us that Satan and his powerful allies will be tormented forever.
"Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." (Rev 20:14-15)
Here it's probably the same lake, but there's no mention of eternity when the fate of ordinary humans is described. These people might burn up and get annihilated instead of burn and suffer in eternity.
Also, you could have a combination of the two ("Hell" and "Hades"):
Human dies -> first ends up in Hades in wait of Judgement day (first death) --> if he's not righteous he then ends up in the fiery lake of Hell (second death) to either be destroyed, burn for a while, or burn forever if he's really evil or accepted The Mark of the Beast.
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The problem with using Revelations as a source of Biblical canon is that it's not written by any of the Apostles and it's difficult to take any of it literally. But sure, we'll go with this.
"The dead were judged according to what they had done" does not necessarily imply that there was different levels of punishment, just that their deeds were all taken into consideration.
"Eternal life" in the New Testament is taken to mean passage into paradise - unless you take the Hades interpretation of Hell to be soething like an endless sleep equivalent to death, which makes a certain amount of sense. Still, that doesn't actually counter what I said.
Yes, it does, though whether or not that includes bad people not worthy to get into Heave-
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I'm not sure where you're presenting an alternative to my explanantions of Hell
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Im not sure either if it's an alternative, but I wanted to address the eternity part and the combo part (first death could be to die from Earthly life and end up in Hades, second death is to end up in real Hell, in which case Hades actually wouldn't really be "a Hell", only a temporary repository for the dead):
And you disagreed with the guy above by saying "none of that is true" when those different punishment levels in Hell actually might not contradict with anything you then wrote.
The green: Im a little lost.
