"Okay, make a poll than, alright? we'll see who's right and who's wrong :)
You are talking theoratically, sure, it is possible that the story isn't the reason for Xenogears and Xenosaga's success, however, it is a fact that they are, if you don't believe me, than go into other messege boards, read what pepole has to say, and realise that I am right, at least about this series. "
Calling it a fact means you need the poll, not me. Claims of certainty need proof, not possibility.
"I didn't say that the gameplay turns pepole off :)"
That was what you implied with Dragon Quest.
"Okay, I said "who gives a shit", I meant to say "I don't give a shit"... is it okay now?"
No, since that is not a response when the discussion is about more than your personal feelings.
"That doesn't matter, the fact that they belong in the same genre does not mean that they are any similar, at all, trying to include them is more BS, because that's using simple definition of a genre and ignoring the essence of the games."
I'm not including them. They are classified as RPGs by many sites and companies. So you think it's BS, take it up with them.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
