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sanadawarrior said:
BMaker11 said:
twesterm said:
sorrowsfountain said:
square enix didnt sale any more games going multiplat. the people who did buy it would have bought it if had been exclusive. if they had made it a xbox exclusive the sales would still equal ps3+360 totals....or if they had moved it to the wii.
the point is its final fantasy the people who want to play final fantasy buy it...the same way if you want to play mario games you buy a nintendo

That's just...no, that's just horribly wrong.

No, actually not entirely. Look at the combined sales (360 and PS3) of former PS3 exclusives, and compare them to their last gen PS2 exclusive counterpart. The combined sales are about on par with the exclusive sales, no? 

At some point or another, I made the argument on VGC that going multi really didn't boost sales for most games, compared to their exclusive counterparts last gen. Look at Devil May Cry. Released nice and early in the PS2's lifetime, so you can't use the userbase argument. Sold 2.78M. DMC4? Combined sales = 2.54M

Now, I'm not gonna make the argument that 1.24M people who bought it on the 360 would've have bought a PS3 for it. But multiconsole owners....they would've bought it for the PS3, obviously. And *some* would've bought a PS3 for DMC4. So a sizable amount of people would have increased PS3 overall numbers for the game. Going multiplatform hasn't "expanded" the userbase for any game this gen. All it's done is split the sales that would've eventually happened anyway, at least that's how I see it IMO. Look at Tekken also. My favorite one to look at is MGS4. Stayed exclusive, in 2008 when the PS3 was "doomed", yet outsold MGS3. If it went multiplatform, I dare say that it would've only sold around 3-3.5M on the PS3, and maybe another 1M on 360...but the sales still would've equaled 4.5M at the end of the day.

But hey, like I said, this is just how I see things, and according to you, there's no possible way to quantify it

Yeah, except Im sure the number of people who would have bought it as a PS3 exclusive is no where near 1.24 million, so those sales wouldn't "have happened anyways" and instead would be lost sales. I can assure you after recently getting a PS3, DMC4 would not even be on my radar for a game to buy right now, but was a game I got way back when it came out on 360.

I've already made my argument for the numbers...but....you wouldn't get DMC4 after recently getting a PS3? DUH! I could L1$T W4R$ you reasons why DMC4 wouldn't be on your radar if you recently got a PS3. But, you're treating it like it was a late port or something. It came out day and date with the 360 version. Now venture back into the beginning of 2008. You know:

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/48099 and

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/326/9/9/PS3_HAS_NO_GAME_by_FreshNfly89.png 

Had DMC4 been exclusive, you don't think the PS3 numbers would've went up based on multiconsole ownership, and people who are just fans of DMC? Ok...look at my other example of Tekken. And you CANNOT overlook MGS4, which sold MORE than it's predecessor, on a userbase of over 100M.