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RockSmith372 said:
Since I am an agnostic, I have nothing against gays. I think gays should have the same opportunities as any other couple. It would empty many orphanages because all gay couples would have to adopt. Seriously, it would work out so well.

please tell me you are joking. a child having 2 fathers and no mother would be the worst thing ever to happen to the child.

Not true. While I don't agree in how easily it would empty the orphanages, as has been modified in a later post by RockSmith, it would be a step in the right direction. The worst thing for the child is to be left, unwanted, in an overburdened system, with no network of support for when they turn 18 and are kicked out of said system. These children aren't going to know what it's like to be in a loving family. They can't suddenly afford to live on their own, so they become a burden on another system, further creating a need for them to be dependant, rather than an individual. Whereas, say, an 8 year old gets adopted into a caring family with 2 fathers (or 2 mothers), then the child can see what love truely is like, and have a support to fall back on should shit hit the fan later. And when that awkward time comes, there's someone they can speak with. The only detriment I could see from this is some extra teasing from some kids at school, but if anything, it would make the kid come out stronger, and realize who his true friends are.

A child NEEDS both male and femal parent. 2 males(or 2 females) are not capable of raising a child. not properly anyways. And while i agree that not getting adopted at all is pretty bad, its not as bad as having 2 fathers/mothers as your parents.

Dunno please don't rise to this nonsense. Report and ignore

it is absolutely insane to suggest that child can be raised properly by a gay copule and i think that entire world would agree with me on this one.

 

and why on earth should he report me??? if you cant handle a discussion without being a bitter, dont dont discuss anything.(not aimed at you or dunno)

I know I should take my own advice, but I'll reply to you civally.

 

I know 2 lots of gay parents, male and female. Both the children were boys, both have had a loving childhood, they were rarely bullied about it, and they turned out like a normal people.and i know a child that has been brought back to the orphanage because its parents were same sex...so?

I don't understand your need (other than being anti gay, don't denie itWTF is anti gay?) to put across how it's IMPOSSIBLE, for gay parents to be good parents because I've seen 2 examples of the opposite, and none proving you right. because the child needs male and female parent

"the entire world" are you kidding? that's a massive overstatement, I know that all of the girls I work with at work agree gay adoption is fine, and a handful of other (straight) people that agree with it. It's just your view on the matter and possibly the area you live in, where I can't say "the whole world agree's with gay adoption" I know there is nowhere near half of the people I know that disagree with it, and the vast majority of my friends are straight males, heck just look at VGChartz, it's full of very straight pro gay people and few anti gays.and lets look at the eastern side of the world...Russia(gay pride parades always end up with lot of protest, watch it on youtube),India,Middle East, East Europe,(same as russia) Africa, South America(very christian religious continent) and some other small parts of Asia...in fact almost entire planet(about 70% of world population) except some western nations and Australia doesnt support gay marrige and sure as hell doesnt support gay people adopting children.i am not saying the world hates gays, just that they are not excepted everywhere yet. at least not when it comes to adoptng children

You're just spreading hate, and that isn't tolerated here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion within reason, you're not giving any reason why gay parents are bad, just that they are. You're anti gay and you're just spreading hate trying to get on people's nerves.im sorry, i tought i didnt have to put a proof, i tought that was obvious...but how about a fact that kid its gonna get bullied A LOT at school which will make the kid insecure, scared and ashamed, and probably wont have any friends.ESPECIALLY if the chiled lives in some eastern country. That was the reson on top of my head. sure, there are some children that would be fine with having 2 parents of the same sex, but most of them wouldnt. Do you know how many people KILLED THEMSELVES because the harassment they recived because of their sexuality?????????? of course, in this case, the consequnces wouldnt go that far, but it would be still pretty bad.

I learnt to not let ignorant views like this rile me up a long time ago, I am interested in your response as to how gay/lesbian adoption shouldn't be allowed though. Only if it isn't old fashioned of course ...

 

People that killed themselves because of their sexuality are usually gay people, not children of gay parents. And at the end of the day kids will get picked on for a variety of reasons. I got picked on because I wore glasses and I wasn't overtly outgoing and aggressive. Most kids are stupid and schools do nothing to protect kids for harassment. Harassing someone for whatever reason is wrong. You yourself are perpertuating the whole blame the victim mentality. Gay people adopting kids isn't the problem. It's people who harass those poor kids who are the problem.

read the last sentence of my post. i didnt said a child would kill himself but i am pretty sure he would feel pretty bad at school and that would ruin his social life (in school at least)

I think Rath did a pretty good job at pointing out the flaw in your argument.

HIGH FIVE !!!!!!!!!!!