phinch1 said:
highwaystar101 said:
phinch1 said:
highwaystar101 said:
phinch1 said:
Ther German Doctor is given the "CHOICE" that if he wants to go home he can, If he chooses not too, then thats fine,
Nick Griffin said it would be ok aslong as they contribute to the society and what better was as a Doctor?
sounds ok to me....
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Do you understand the situation? The doctor is British, he is not German. I don't know why you thought he was German. He will be asked to leave because his grandparents were from Germany.
The fact that the doctor, as a 100% British person, has been singled out because of his lineage and asked to leave is just outright plain racist.
And as I quoted in an earlier post form the BNP policies, the BNP would not be ok as long as they contribute to society as they plan to close all immigration. The only case would be special circumstances, which Nick Griffin defined by using the Japanese physicist analogy, which is such a violation of basic rights against an immigrant (forcing them to do one job and not allowing them a choice) it's laughable.
And Nick griffin has said repeatedly that he does not want immigrants working for the NHS, in fact his plan is to get all immigrant workers in the NHS out. It's pretty much one of the major forces of the BNP healthcare policy.
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ok The doctor with german "lineage" is given the choice. its up to him weather he take up n the offer, and he probably wont, good for him, I just though your example was pretty crap
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How is it crap? It's bang on. The guy is being picked out for his German lineage and asked to leave. It's just plain racist. Yes he can accept it, and yes he can turn it down. But that doesn't change the fact that he's being asked to leave for having foreign lineage.
If I was having a house party for VGChartz members and you turned up, how would you feel if I asked you to leave because I found out you had some German in you? You don't have to leave, but man would you be offended by me. Most people would call my actions racist, most would call it unacceptable.
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Your confusing yourself now, nick griffin did not ask this hyperthetical guy to leave the country all he is saying to everyone with foreign lineage is that "IF THEY WANT TO" they can go home and get paid 50k
So it would be more like this.You having a house party for your family + vgchartz members and thinking to yourself, jeeze my house is getting a bit full, its getting hard to keep on top of everything going on then standing up and making the anouncemnt to people who arent of your family "my house if full I dont mind too much if you want to say...... but if you WANT TO GO HOME! I will pay for your taxi fair home.
thats spot on mate, your blowing things out of proportion
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No, I'm not confusing myself. Nick Griffin would ask the hypothetical man with foreign lineage to leave when he asks all people with foreign lineage to leave. You keep seeing the whole "If they want to" argument as some way of justifying it. It doesn't justify it, not by a long shot. Why is one British person asked to leave and not another? Yes you are giving the person a choice, but you are giving them a choice based on extremely racist reasoning.
Also, your analogy is poor, it isn't spot on by a long shot. This isn't saying "my house is full, I'm going to announce to everyone that I need people to leave.", it's one of two things...
"Boy my house is getting full, I think I might ask those black people to leave as they are the people I want here least. I'll offer to pay for their taxi fare home, it will be an incentive for them to leave"
or
"Boy I don't like black people in my house, perhaps I will ask them to leave. I will pay for their taxi fare, it will be an incentive for that group to leave"
Those two are far more accurate to the situation. It's either one or the other, he isn't just announcing this choice to everyone, he's picking out a certain group based on their lineage.
