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SeriousWB said:
badgenome said:
HappySqurriel said:
What is associated to religion in the quote is just as true of any large scale belief system I have ever seen, and is heavily present in secular movements like the anti-War, anti-Nuclear, anti-Globalization and Environmental movements of the past 50 years.

Exactly what I was going to say. Such movements are basically secular religions and can be as intolerant as any other religion.

I'm sorry but that sounds wrong to me.  Such movements are based on possible effects on the world.  There is a stark difference between an anti-war stance because war causes casualities in 'real-life' as opposed to a religious belief in fear of a 'supposed' damnation.  Such movements are certainly not "basically secular religions".  I agree with HappySqurriels comment on this statement though.

I was speaking a bit loosely. There is an immense amount of dogmatism in such groups, and I think it's probably most noticeable among the green movement. One can be a rational environmentalist, certainly, but it requires basing one's conclusions on the evidence and not manipulating the evidence to fit one's conclusions. I've seen too many greens display as much zealotry and intolerance as any Islamic extremist when confronted by a skeptic.

People who are vehemently anti-religious have a tendency to make politics their religion.