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ironman said:
Final-Fan said:
ironman said:
Final-Fan said:
ironman said:
Hmm, perhaps you should stop perusing the forums and pay more attention to history. What I said was accurate. 

Not at all.  You said "the Coran makes it quite clear that Muslims are to kill all Jews."  But it was pointed out earlier in the thread that the Koran is NOT CLEAR about that subject: 
http://www.gotquestions.org/jews-arabs.html
"The religion of Islam, to which a majority of Arabs are adherents, has made this hostility more profound. The Qur'an contains somewhat contradictory instructions for Muslims regarding Jews. At one point it instructs Muslims to treat Jews as brothers and at another point commands Muslims to attack Jews who refuse to convert to Islam.

Hmm, Ok so there was an Incident in Rochester MN that proves the opposite of what you are saying. A few years back a mosque in downtown was being renovated. A gentleman on the contractors team had mentioned he was Jewish. Upon hearing this, a young Muslim who could barely speak English, grabbed a shovel and ran at the guy saying "I kill you! I kill you!" this is not isolated...the Coran can be foggy as you want to make it out to be. The fact is, a great many Muslims DO believe the portion of the Coran that commands them to kill all Jews. 

Your post doesn't prove anything at all about what we were talking about.  
Again, you said "the Coran makes it quite clear that Muslims are to kill all Jews."
What fanatics believe often has little to do with what the holy book they claim to know the "true" interpretation of really says.  

Also, I disbelieve your anecdote until you show me a source.  It sounds like one of those inevitably false chain emails.  

No, my post was right on topic, which was the Jewish/Muslim relationship.  What fanatics believe IS that the Coran commands them to kill all Jews, this has been going on for well over 1000 years. If you knew ANYTHING about history, you would be aware of this.

My source is my dad, he frequents a music store right next to the mosque in question, he is on a first name basis with the owner of said music store, he was told this story by the music store owner who frequently talked with the construction crew when they were on break as he had nothing better to do. Go ahead and not believe me, but this stuff happens all the time, you just don't hear about it because it's not PC enough for the media. 

NO NO NO
WHAT YOU SAID WAS "THE CORAN MAKES IT QUITE CLEAR THAT MUSLIMS ARE TO KILL ALL JEWS"  
DO YOU STAND BY THIS STATEMENT OR NOT?  

This has nothing to do with whether there exist fanatical antisemitic Muslims who believe that their hatred is supported by their religion, any more than it has to do with similar Christian or Jewish groups (as you pointed out to Doobie_wop).   

And if you are planning to dodge the question by claiming I am being too narrow in my criticism of your post, I can only say that this is an extremely important point that I want to resolve separately.  And, most importantly, resolve.   

As for your third-hand anecdote, I am not going to accuse anybody of making anything up, but I think it's entirely possible that there was a little more that might have happened to cause the outburst (for instance, if the construction crew was being unknowingly offensive, that would hardly make it into their retelling), and the outburst (or entire story) may have been exaggerated or distorted by any or all of the parties that transmitted the story, in the way that such gossip tends to do.  But speculation is useless as far as determining the truth of the matter goes.  



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