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mirgro said:
appolose said:
mirgro said:
mrstickball said:
So Mirgro, how many people died during the Muslim conquests of 632-732? Just curious.

Oh a whole bunch, can't argue that. At the same time, it is only a small fraction when compared to the Inquisition, Crusades, Reformation, and conquering of the Americas. I mean, the Chrst killed off a whole continent of civilizations, that's a very tough act to follow.

 

Reading through your other responses. I am fully well aware that we are in the 21st century. However, you are trying to compare an 18 year old with a 30 year old in maturity. That is NOT how the world works. The only data we have is how the 30 year-old was when he was also 18 and that is not pretty. The 30 year-old acted far more aggressively and committed far more atrocious crimes than the 18 year-old has done. Going by how the 18 year old is developing, by the time he is 30, he will be a far better person than the current 30 year old, may ever be.

You have zero wiggle room here, ideaologies mature with time just as people do, and Islam is still in its teenage years while Chsristianity is well past its retarded stage, but man was Christianity's retarded stage far more retarded than Islam's current retarded stage.

Furthermore, the only reason you would throw yourself to save someone back in those days is because you were conditioned to do so by someone, back in those days you'd be with the rest of the crowd at throwing stones. Don't flatter yourself.

Also we live in the 21st century with 21st century morals? Please enlighten me what exactly, "2st century morals" are. Because the way I see it the number of Muslims is very close to the number of Christians, and is set to surpass it soon. Are you trying to tell me your morals are somehow "better," or "superior" than theirs? Because if that is how you think, then it is my mistake for getting in this argument with you. I obviously can't have an intelligent argument of this high level with you. If I am wrong in my assumption though, just let me know and I will continue to reply.

I'd just like to point out that Islam,  in its current alleged level of maturity, is not dominant in major world powers, whereas Christianity at that level was.

It's not like they could go invade a continent and wipe out whole civilizations and get away with it at this time.

Yes, because the Christians definitely had the power to annihilate the entire Americas and did not use bio-terrorism at all. Oh wait... what?

The one time they actually tried to use their "dominant world powers" on others was during the Crusades, and they ended up so well for the Christians. The equivalent would be the equivalent of Pakistan nuking the shit out of Europe, or the US, and I don't see that happening soon either. So apparently Muslims are more mindful when they do in fact have a superior power at the same stage of maturity.

The best argument you have is to say that the splits within Islam and the strife they have caused is about as equal as the strife on Christianity, but even then, the Reformation and subsequent treatment of Protestants at the hands of Catholics, and vice versa, throughout Europe is still worse.

I'm not sure I understand your reply.  You would agree that the "Christians"  certainly had the technological edge when they came to the Americas, yes?  But in today's time, what Muslim nation has a technolgical advantage and the power to wipe out other civilizations, as per your example? 

If that's what you meant, at least.



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