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Kantor said:
mirgro said:
bimmylee said:
mirgro said:

I am well aware what the teachings of Christianity are. That however does not mean that all the listed atrocities were not excused by Christianity. Did you know that Islam actually says that they should never throw the first stone and that God does not love aggressors?

Just like in Christianity, you can interprent different teachings in different ways. So really, Christians acting all high and mighty is utterly the epitomy of conceitedness.

Oh, I absolutely agree. Christians should be the very last ones to assume a moral high ground. Though I call myself a Christian, I consider myself no better than the lowest criminal. Nobody is better than anyone else.

As for the listed atrocities, it is the people who committed them who are not excused for doing what they did, regardless of what they claim their faith is. However, their crimes don't directly discredit Christian teachings. That is my main point. Yes, it makes Christianity look very bad, but the ideology is still solid.

And as far as differing interpretations, that's not as much of a problem as you might think. When Jesus says to "love your enemies", he means exactly that. When Jesus says "you cannot serve both God and Money", he means exactly that. No differing interpretations. Just plain speech.

Maybe you don't understand how ideaologies work. Ideaologies are what people make them out to be. If the people following it go and kill millions, then the ideaology is bad. By your logic, communism is the greatest thing in the world, and capitalism is utterly the devil. People's doings have proven otherwise. Same goes for religion.

They're not following the ideology, they're following a perverse, corrupted version of the ideology. I'm pretty sure it doesn't say "Kill everybody who says Muhammad" in the Qu'ran. Or, if it does (I'm not sure, having never read the Qu'ran), then it can't be taken literally. The Bible has some great teachings, yes. It also has some complete nonsense. You have to take the genera meaning of the religion without listening to everything it says in the holy book, which will inevitably contradict itself anyway.

Come to think of it, all religions (except maybe Buddhism) have some pretty nasty stuff in there.

sorry to be boring but great post.Finally we see some common sense!



"They will know heghan belongs to the helghast"

"England expects that everyman will do his duty"

"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"