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ElGranCabeza said:
Seece said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Seece said:
ElGranCabeza said:

You're just seeing what you wanna see, the proof is in the pudding, here's the PS3 and Wii first full xmas season:

 

Microsoft's Fiscal Year 2007-08

        Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 FY LTD

PS2 3.2 5.4 2.4 1.5 12.5 37.7

360 1.8 4.3 1.3 1.3 8.7 20.3

PS3 1.3 4.9 2.2 1.6 10.0 14.2

WII 3.9 7.0 4.3 5.2 20.4 29.6

 

So what's the excuse now? As a matter of fact, I've shown, with facts, that they have overshipped, you asked a question, I answered it, so let me ask you a question, how have they not overshipped and stuffed the channels in Q2 when for the next 6 they shipped a whooping 1.2 million? I'm not saying MS is wrong for overshipping? But they have as you can clearly see on the table - and choose not to see it like in your case. 

Again, 2007 - 2008 a year not in the 360's favour.

Go get 2008 - 2009 figures, and if they show a similar pattern I'll agree.

the problem with launch year is that both PS3 and Wii were both in high demand, so were always going to ship a lot more than 360 in Q2. The problem with 2007/08 is that PS3 came out of xmas with a price cut, meaning the demand was still there in Q2, and wii ... well the demand has always been high.

If 2009 Q2 shows the 360 was overshipped at christmas, when it still had high demand from the price cut and NXE marketing, then I agree they overship.

You said all that and all you gave me were excuses as to why the 360 overshipped, i.e.  you saying "Again, 2007 - 2008 a year not in the 360's favour." and you still didn't answer the question, so let me ask again, how does MS shipping 1.2 million in 6 months not show that it overshipped the quarter before? I'm not asking for an excuse or a reason, I'm asking you to show me how it didn't overship.

I JUST told you, 1.2 mill is probably normal levels for a console NOT in demand, the 360 wasn't in demand at that point in time, PS3 and Wii were.

LOL if you really think that then you really don't understand how this works or you're too stubborn to try to understand. 1.2 million shipped in 6 months being normal levels for a console on its 2nd year LMFAO. Either way I'm done with this conversation, if you choose to ignore facts then it's hard to have a conversation with somebody.

How can you gage whether 1.2 low? would that be low for the gamecube?

That aside, I already asked you to get me Q2 figures for 09, either you're ignoring that, or you've found them and they don't prove your point.

360's second year was it's slowest out of the last 4, so yeah 1.2 is fine ...