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jesus kung fu magic said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Severance said:
Microsoft is very very good in not overshipping/undershipping. |
That's not 100% true:
Microsoft's Fiscal Year 2006-07
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 FY LTD
PS2 3.4 6.7 2.4 2.7 15.2 25.2
360 1.0 4.4 0.5 0.7 6.6 11.6
PS3 - 1.7 1.8 0.7 4.2 4.2
WII - 3.1 2.7 3.4 9.2 9.2
That's a clear case of overshipping in Q2
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Thats was because MS was flooding the canals to get to the 10 million mark first.............stupid really
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And it was Christmas .....
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The point is that they have overshipped before, regardless of the reason or excuse.
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Do they ever provide games shipment data? |
No
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When have they overshipped?
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Q2 on the table that I provided, that's as clear as day, but if you don't think they overshipped and you think that shipping 1.2 million for the next 6 months is normal and not a clear sign that they overshipped the previous Q, then I have nothing else to say.
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You are completely ignoring my reply. Q2 is CHRISTMAS. they didn't over ship, they shipped to demand. Look at the PS2 ship 6.7 mill the sam Q. Christmas is the busiest time or year.
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I'm not ignoring it, everybody ships more during Christmas, never denied that, but they still have some decent shipping for the quarters following it. X360 overshipped during Christmas season that year. That's a fact that's as clear as day by looking at that table, I don't even know why you're debating this. Everybody else had higher Q2 as well but had some decent shipments the following quarters, unlike the 360.
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You can't compare the 360 to any of the other consoles, it was it's first full xmas season and in a different position to the PS2, PS3 and Wii.
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You're just seeing what you wanna see, the proof is in the pudding, here's the PS3 and Wii first full xmas season:
Microsoft's Fiscal Year 2007-08
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 FY LTD
PS2 3.2 5.4 2.4 1.5 12.5 37.7
360 1.8 4.3 1.3 1.3 8.7 20.3
PS3 1.3 4.9 2.2 1.6 10.0 14.2
WII 3.9 7.0 4.3 5.2 20.4 29.6
So what's the excuse now? As a matter of fact, I've shown, with facts, that they have overshipped, you asked a question, I answered it, so let me ask you a question, how have they not overshipped and stuffed the channels in Q2 when for the next 6 they shipped a whooping 1.2 million? I'm not saying MS is wrong for overshipping? But they have as you can clearly see on the table - and choose not to see it like in your case.
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Again, 2007 - 2008 a year not in the 360's favour.
Go get 2008 - 2009 figures, and if they show a similar pattern I'll agree.
the problem with launch year is that both PS3 and Wii were both in high demand, so were always going to ship a lot more than 360 in Q2. The problem with 2007/08 is that PS3 came out of xmas with a price cut, meaning the demand was still there in Q2, and wii ... well the demand has always been high.
If 2009 Q2 shows the 360 was overshipped at christmas, when it still had high demand from the price cut and NXE marketing, then I agree they overship.
