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PhoenixKing said:
Final-Fan said:
There are plenty of crazy and unsupported things numonex is saying, but in this case you specifically took issue with the general statement that perpetrators of crimes such as child molestation should be severely punished, calling that a witch hunt mentality. 

So you were OBJECTING to punishing PERPETRATORS of child molestation. 

And BTW you are both going beyond what is substantiated IMO. 

Excuse me? The man has been convicted now in the few days since the news reported their SUSPICIONS of him being a child molestor?

I follow the belief of "innocent until proven guilty" to move away from personal bias surrounding a matter as much as possible. Somehow that makes me a supporter of pedophiles? I find that to be a rather personal insult.

Forget it, there is no point in discussing this any further with people who automatically judge the accused as guilty. That mentality is so disgraceful and one-sided that there is no point in arguing with such a witch hunt mentality.

In your fanatical defense of Michael Jackson (whose guilt or innocence I here take no stance on) you are completely overlooking, obliviously, my key point. 

What I responded to was you objecting to a GENERAL STATEMENT that child molesters should be severely punished.  numonex has made it clear that he thinks the guy is guilty -- but that's not the phrase that was highlighted by Nirvana_Nut85, which your response therefore addressed.  

I was, and remain, simply pointing out that your words implied that you were objecting to the punishment of child molesters, instead of what I hope you meant to say:  objecting to treating the accused as guilty until proven innocent.  You may think that my criticism is silly, but that's exactly the sort of sloppiness that can lead to people completely misunderstanding and talking past each other uselessly and angrily.  Speaking of which...

Meanwhile, you seem to think that I agree 100% with everything numonex has said, despite my strongly disagreeing with a lot of what he said.  Your myopia is blinding you to what people are actually saying and that is never a good thing in any kind of discussion.  Wise up. 



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