Final Fantasy XIII is a MAJOR flop on the 360 - we need to talk about it

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tjallern said:

You know thelifatree, あなたが馬鹿だと思います。is an insult!! haha, only joking ^^

However, it should be alarming for SE that FFXIII shows a decline in interest for the FF series. I thought this game was supposed to revive the series from what "half of the FF fanbase" saw as "two huge disappointments (FFXI and FFXII)". As we can see by the sales, this will be the worst selling FF game debuting on it's generations platforms. Both FFVII and FFX outsold/will outsell it by a lot. The game had major hype and many saw it as the savior of the FF series. Also, after closely witnessing how the game sold in Japan (A LOT of copies returned in many stores. I mean A LOT. In late December - January I saw more used copies of FFXIII than any other game I have ever witnessed in game stores in Tokyo. People were returning this game like crazy over in Japan. In addition, it's legs have completely been cut of. I mean, it sold 895 copies in Japan this week. When only 1.9 million people out of 5 million console owners have bought the game, one should expect better sales than 895 copies in it's 17th week), I think there has been a lot of disappointed FFXIII buyers out there. I know they have The Best- versions of these games and that they sold a lot less than FFXIII overall, but MGS4 (96th week) sold 2044 copies, Demon's Souls (62nd week) sold 2474 copies and Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 (59th week) sold 2249 copies. That is not good for FF as a series, that a main game sees legs of 895 copies sold in it's 17th week in Japan. That means that out of all the thousands of new PS3 sold every week in Japan, almost no one buys FFXIII at all when they pick up a system...

I have never been a FF fanatic, but I was looking into getting this game. I have been trying to get into the FF series lately with PSP remakes and PS1/PS2 classics, and when me and my friend bought our PS3s, one of the games we were looking forward to was FFXIII. After following SE the last couple of years though and following FFXIII closely, I can't say that I want to buy this game at all. There is a lot of controversy surrounding the game and there has been cuts in this game, the biggest cut being the exploration in the game. I don't care for what reason, but cuts have been made. And the rumors surrounding these "cuts" may make it into the game through DLC are not making me want this game any more than I already do.

I would actually say that overall, FFXIII is a flop. Yeah, the game has sold a lot of copies, but people buy a lot of games this generation and there are a lot of people who just, you know, "jump the gun" and buy a game before they know if it's any good at all. Final Fantasy has the power to sell games on the brand name alone and this might make a lot of people "jump the gun". That's why we see many copies returned and awful legs in, especially Japan. Let's see how it's legs will be like, only then we can determine if the game is a "flop" or not.

 

edit: about many returned copies in Japan and horrible legs: yes I know Japan is famous for it's huge 2nd hand market, but still 895 copies in a game's 17th week in the HOMELAND of JRPGs is just horrible.

edit2: Oh, and OP is far away from funny... If this was anyone but Rol, let's say a normal forum member like myself with a low post count, they would be banned for a long, long, long time for flaming and trolling another member of the forum, etc, etc, etc no matter if it was a joke or not. Even if he wrote a "disclaimer" in the OP, the whole point of this thread is to get attention, to get other forum members riled up and to get some VG$ or whatever you guys collect... You are very inconsistent with your banning on this site. I mean, you ban people for speaking their mind with a little bit of so-called "hard-criticism" or criticism at all against certain subjects (RROD, YLOD, Sony, Nintendo, 360, MS, or whatever) or just the cold hard truth (360 failure rates, Nintendo's problem with 3rd party, etc), while you let "elite trollers" like this keep luring people into flaming, making them get banned for it. I'm almost expecting to get banned for calling this out...

That is fine you views make sense. I love this game, But I know the fanbase... isn't in agreement like they were with 7 and 10.

FF8 is another game I loved. That was split not as much as 13, but it was the Sequal to FF7 so it sold a ton

FF11 doesn't count as it's online based and FF14 as well... because most people no thats not supposed to be the same experience

All I'm saying is that this wasn't a flop because it sold will and will sell within the FF parameters. Like I mean like movies like Star Wars Prequels They weren't very good but they sold like hell)

but what this does create is the possibility with the lukewarm reception, of SQUARE is running out of time before FF can be a guarenteed 5 million sale... which is bad because they need it to sell that money because the budgets are so high... for a Gorgeous 40 hour JRPG.

And if they made a FF and it sold like 2 million then or 1 million or some number where they lost money or something then it's a flop rather than underperforming.

Which could also explain, why square is trying to diversify themselfs from their 3 main franchises of JRPG's KH, DQ, FF. By buying eidos and getting money for games such as Deus Ex (HOOORAY) and Publishing things like Just Cause

the definition I put of a flop as A massive failure