US government finally admits most piracy estimates are bogus

[Kasz216]

BW_JP said:

Kasz216 said:

As long as there is no physical copy you HAVEN'T stolen anything.

Also, i never said people who commit copyright infringement aren't criminals.

Your actual argument actually disproves your theory.  If you refuse to pay a consultant you ARE NOT arrested for theft.  They take it up with you in court for not rendering payment.  Which is the crime.  Not theft...

It's also a crime that to my knowledge has no jail time... it's treated like a debt and there is no debtors prisons in the US.

Additionally you should be careful with the personal insults they're against forum rules.

Really? theres no theft? So games have a value of 1$ and 30c? because thats the value of an in store copy of a game. whats of value is the data. You're wrong. deal with it. 

I used that as an example to deal with time being of value. I dont care what name you want to put on it, you're a criminal. This isnt the same, you are stealing. Piracy is theft and little minds cannot get their heads around it.

Its enraging to see someone who appears to be over 20 years old making such stupid claims. I'll take a ban for it, I really don't care.  

People who assault people and people who steal are both criminals as well.

They are not committing the same crime.

Additionally, now the stiffing an expert isn't theft though?  That appears to be what you are saying?

Even though the stiffing of an expert is much more like copyright infringment... then copyright infringment is theft.

These aren't what I'm calling it.  These are what the Criminal Justice System calls it.

They are not the same.  This can be eaisly seen by the fact that the punishments for downloading a 60 dollar game is different from the punishment you would receive for stealing a 60 dollar game.

 

I am in no way condoning piracy, i am simply congizant of the fact that both the Criminal's actions and how the Victim was inconvienced is how a crime is defined.