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Solid_Snake4RD on 15 April 2010
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nightsurge said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
nightsurge said:
gekkokamen said:
nobody ever charges for dreaming, but I wonder if he charges for these predictions? I'd say the $299 bundle is a reality waiting to happen...not sure if the HDD would be 250GB in that one though. A PS3 Move bundle for $299 is also a reality waiting to happen. And a 360 slim? I really don't see it, unless they want to make it look like the "Natal" (or whatever the final name will be) is a whole new console.

A slim is nearly 100% certainty already given the leaks and the building evidence from MS itself.

A PS3 Move bundle for $299 is not even close to the realm of possibility unless Sony wishes to take another $80+ loss per console sold again.  I predict a PS3 Move bundle would be $349 to $399.

With the huge cost savings MS has racked up and with the cost savings from the Slim, the combined CPU/GPU, etc. they should easily be able to bundle in Natal with a Slim 360 and 250GB HDD at $299.  In fact, since Natal is rumored to be around $50-80 there may be room to release the bundle at $249 rather than $299.

I expect either is likely.  MS may release a $299 bundle first, with a $199 Arcade + Natal bundle and then if momentum hasn't shifted quite enough for them they will cut down to $149/249 just in time for the holiday huge rush.

realm of posiiblity?................lol

 

Sony is barely making a loss of the PS3 which they said will be easily made up by software sales.Eye and Move are supposed to cost $60-70

Also Sony is to bring 45nm RSX to the PS3,that is why there are shortages of PS3 as they are trying to bring the new PS3 models(the rumored 3.0kg models replacing 3.2KG ones) that can make profit and that would make significant price cuts like we saw with the 45nm CELL implementation in PS3 SLIM which reduced costs by around $100-150.

 

also Toshiba is said to be working on 32nm CELL.another price cut.This will give Sony the power to cut price of the PS3 significantly

I'm sorry but you are greatly getting things incorrect.  The Eye + Move Wand + Game bundle (without nunchuck) is supposed to cost "below $100" which in marketing means $99.  The bundle they should want to include with the PS3 will be the complete Eye + Wand + Nuncuck + Game bundle so that at the very least would cost them $100 if not more (if the move bundle pack is actually $60-70 then the PS3 Move bundle with nunchuck added would be $100 added cost.  If the move bundle pack is close to $100 like I estimate, then the bunle would add more than $100 cost to the PS3).

You also greatly overestimate the cost savings of die shrinks.  While they do save costs, just one shrink does not mean $100-150 in savings.  The Slim was able to reduce costs by the overall weight reduction.  They shrank the cell, removed a lot of unneeded internal casing and cooling, changed materials, shrank the PSU, etc.  All that combined for about $100 in savings.

Shrinking the RSX now and removing some small amount of weight will allow them to break even or make a minor profit.  Do you really think they want to take another $60-100 loss per console sold?

They said they wanted to pack a game,eye,move(which could mean they talking combined Move and Nunchuck) in the under $100 mark.and where does it say that always under $100 is $99.

 

If they shrink rsx,they will make around $50 profit easily.Sony was said to be making $20 minor loss on Slim.The PS3 eye is alot older now its price must have gone down as it atm costs $15-20 to make.The game doesn't cost much oher than developers salary and as its first party,it will cost with packaging and all $15 at max.Toshiba are workig on 32nm Cell which will bring another saving.and the blu-ray and other tech costs decreasing,They will be able to reduce alot of cost by years end.As they have almost done RSX reduction.

Then the PS3 will cost around $200-250 if they are succesfull in reductions in time,then they will be able to pack in the move bundle at around $320 at sony's cost and they will sell it around $299.The loss will be $20-30 dollars which they are already making and getting back with software sales.

And this will only be on bundling,the standlone 120gb and 250gb PS3's will be making profit.

 

And this is only for US,in europe and Japan,they are already making profit because of their currency valuation.