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Mr. sickVisionz said:
You gotta love the internet. You come in expecting a thread about Natal but the last few pages are a bunch of quotes about the tech specs of HD-DVD. How on Earth did it come to this?

Ha ha yeah right.  The derailing is incredible.  Btw, I agree with Squilliam's cost analysis and Pachter's estimate.  I am calling a Sept 360 price cut followed with a November launch for the Slim (or 360+ [according to last year's rumor]) at $250 with Natal bundled. Elite will be cut to $300, Natal separate, 250 GB HDD standard.

Almost forgot, Arcade will likely be phased out for the Slim.