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nightsurge said:

Hmmm... so you are saying that since I use readily available information to back up my arguments they aren't as good as your simple personal beliefs and statements without any such support?  Interesting.  I guess I am expected to bow to your knowledge of the future.

I don't see what being an expert on SCE of Xbox finances has to do with what each console loses/makes.  I know for a fact Sony is still taking a loss and that even with the changes suggested (200 gram reduction and RSX size shrink) would only move them to a small profit.  This is from my general experience in computer hardware and having personally seen the results of die shrinks on costs many times in the past.  This knowledge I would have thought was very common as it has all been on VGChartz at one point or another.  Just because I don't feel the need to spoon feed everything to you doesn't mean you can just count it all off as nothing.  Do your own research.  You are grown up enough, are you not?

A PS3 + Move Bundle right now would cost $399 or more (Move bundle includes PSEye + Wand + Nunchuck + Game, the Move standalone pack is just Wand + PS Eye + game).  I said that if they are able to cut costs they could bring it down to $349 which still might be taking a small loss or just breaking even.  Sure Sony can launch a $300 PS3 Move bundle, but it will put them deap in the red again.

In addition to this, its quite possible that the yields on the 45nm RSX chips aren't as good as what they'd like at present considering the shortages and delays in getting the 45nm RSX into production quantities. Overall even now the PS3 is still likely more expensive to produce than the Xbox 360 Elite, and thats factoring in the 45nm RSX reduction, then on top of that you'd have to also consider the $10 charge for Blu Ray playback etc and likely Nvidia stiffing them on royalties.

The Xbox 360 Slim looks pretty dirt cheap to produce. Between a significant reduction in board complexity, those trace lines between the CPU/GPU are expensive and using 1Gbit GDDR3 as well as cutting the silicon costs in half  along with reduced power supply and heat disipation complexity, it'll probably be at least a $50 saving. If Microsoft were to be interested, they could possibly sell the Xbox 360 for less than $299 without taking more than a marginal loss on the console with Natal.



Tease.