psrock said:
jarrod said:
kitler53 said:
i'm really not sure what you are trying to get at. you say that not every single ps2 franchise is up, just the ones with prominence. well no crap, the franchises sony currently pushes are doing well and the ones they are ignoring are dying. franchises die all the time, all franchises will die eventually. the important part is that GT was and continues to be sony's most predominate franchise which puts it in good company with the other franchises that have done better than before like KZ2, GoW, MGS, and amazingly to me RE despite being mulitplat and sellng amazingly on the 360. GT5:prologue is doing amazing with great legs still today and that doesn't even include whatever was sold as DLC.
whatever, mark my words, quote me, bet me. GT5 will hit 10M and neither of us can be proven right/wrong until GT5 finally releases.
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You've misunderstood me, I'm not saying only the ones with prominence are up. I'm saying only the ones with more prominence than last gen are up. And GT5 won't be in that camp.
Also, MGS4 undersold MGS2 (each being the generational franchise debut), and RECVX and RE4 each came a year late to PS2 while RE5 came day-and-date to PS3. If RE5 released just last month for the first time on PS3, how high do you think sales would get?
GT5P's done really well, but the context surrounding it's release is most similar to GT3 than anything (franchise debut, heavy bundling). I think if GT5's bundled as well it may hit 10m (and knowing Sony, it likely will be), but if it's not it won't. No matter what though, I think it has pretty much no chance of hitting GT3 numbers, though it could pass GT4.
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The problem with your argument is you are assuming too much based on the past. MGS4 will outsell MGS2 anyway, so your point means nothing. The biggest issue is the fact America has lost interest in racing games lately, but if Sony advertise this game, I don't see why it can't sell 2.5 million in the US, that's all it really need. Europe is where this game will shine, and I have no doubt, GT5 will spend years in the sharts. 6 to 7 million easy. I don't care for the whole 10 Million number as means nothing to me, but it will be the top selling PS3 game this gen.
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I'm sure Sony will be touting the inclusion of Nascar with this iteration pretty heavily in NA. The absence of a Nascar 2010 will only make its inclusion all the more meaningful. That plus WRC should help the game to be one of the better selling GTs in North America.
There's just so much content in GT5 that Sony easily has the power to make GT even more prominent than it was in the past, especially given they're bringing the GT Academy to Norh America later this year. The GT brand is only growing, and I believe they're trying to make the franchise as big in NA as it is in Europe through GT5.
And honestly, given how franchises like Need for Speed have fallen in sales considerably from last gen, there's not much for GT to compete with these days. The only racer to put up decent numbers on ps3 aside from GT5: Prologue was MotorStorm, which is pretty incomparable.