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Mazty on 03 April 2010
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vaio said:
Mazty said:

What links??

What goalposts? You are just saying this allowing you to avoid your point.

Fact is you have yet to show why a hardcore gamer would have a wii on the basis of it's games, which is my whole point of my point that a simple hardware improvement would not help nintendo. I have shown you but you just ignore I hve proven everything you say false, irrelevant or blatant lies.

Show me something that supports your claim that a hardcore gamer doesnt, I am proof that what you claim is false and if that is not enough there are plenty of gamers and hardcore gamers here at this site that have a wii.

So unless you can support your claim there is no reason to discuss it, not discussing claims pulled out of your ass

in case you forgot:

dont avoid proving your claims and show us some links to support them.

Show proof of 180ms lag. Allready failed at this and only proving that you talk out of your ass.

Show me proof that hardcore gamers are not buying the wii, there are lots of proof otherwise just on this site and users here and by me posting.

Show proof that most wii´s are collecting dust

You are not getting of that easy we have provided you with answers and examples and just because you dont agree doesnt mean that they are not valid.

So show some proof instead of whinning like a butthurt little kid.

When you have done this we can continue the discussion.

Are you for real?

All you have shown is that the wii remote can be used as a steering wheel or lightgun which have been around since the PS1.
Your claims that HD consoles have done nothing for game genres is a lie, ignoring games such as Heavy Rain, Gears of War, Killzone 2, Resistance 2 and so on.

Something to show that hardcore gamers are not interested in the wii is that it would seem to have not a single, or maybe one or two (?) benchmark games for any game genre. Why would a hardcore gamer buy a console which offers games of a lower quality than other gaming platforms?

You are not a hardcore gamer - you clearly haven't touched the likes of Gears of War, Killzone 2, Uncharted etc. You simply enjoy casual games, something the wii excels at, but casual games are not for the hardcore by definition.

The fact you ignore many of the features of modern games to aid your claim the wii is for the hardcore shows how hollow your argument is.

By the way, you have yet to provide any evidence for the wii latency, so it's a completely stupid point to bring up - let it go.
Why do I need evidence wii's are collecting dust? That's digressing from my point the wii is for casual gamers (ergo people not interested in a  wii 2 due to a lack of interest in hardware), something which is backed up by the fact the wii has no benchmark or revolutionary games, which cannot be said for the PS3, PC or 360.

So going to tell me what games make the wii revolutionary or just pretending you've already answered it, which you haven't, unless you can tell me how a light gun and a steering wheel are revolutionary considering the length of time they've been around.