Should Nintendo launch in 2011-12 starting the next gen with monster power?

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Mazty said:
Wow, I'll sum it up for both of you here:
1) Find another word instead of goalposts.

2) I am going to mention PC games because I am talking about GAMING. You cannot claim a game has been revolutionary for a genre unless you look at the entire genre, not a specific little bit. Doing that you could claim any game is revolutionary.
2ii)Therefore point and click adventures are not revolutionary, and i'm going to compare Zelda to the entire RPG game catalogue, not just itself. If you don't you could claim a popularly perceived bad game e.g. Haze, is good if you just compare it a cherry picked game e.g. Doom.
2iii) Zelda = RPG. Oblivion = RPG. Ratchet and Clank = platformer. Halo = FPS. Well done on misclassifying those games. And Oblivion is on the 360.

The Legend of Zelda (ゼルダの伝説, Zeruda no Densetsu^?) is a high fantasy action-adventure video game series created by Japanese game designers Shigeru Miyamoto and Takashi Tezuka and developed and published by Nintendo

Gameplay

The Legend of Zelda games feature a mixture of puzzles, action, adventure/battle gameplay, and exploration. These elements have remained constant throughout the series, but with refinements and additions featured in each new game. The player is frequently rewarded for solving puzzles or exploring areas. Most Zelda games involve locating and exploring dungeons, in which puzzles are solved and enemies fought, then defeating the dungeon's boss. Each dungeon usually has one major item inside, which is usually essential for solving many of the puzzles in that dungeon and often plays a crucial role in defeating that dungeon's boss. Some items are consistent and appear many times throughout the series, while others are unique to a single game. The series also consists of stealth gameplay, where the player must avoid enemies while proceeding through a level, as well as racing elements.

3) You cannot use the all the wii buttons effectively at once. Try using 1 and 2 when the pad is being used as a pointer or A when you are holding the pad sidewise etc.

4) My point has been that real gamers are not into the wii (which is going to effect future Nintendo console sales if it just goes for an improved wii) as it offers no revolutionary games or definitive games for the genres offered. I point this out then you both moan that i'm "moving goalposts" as i'm comparing wii games to games on other platforms. Well duh, that's the point, looking at the wii games in contrast to the consoles which are perceived to be for the "real" gamers.
4ii)All you have come up with is that the wii games are better than their predecessors, but not better than other games on the market, and that the wii excels in arcade novelties such as light guns and steering wheels.


Why would a hardcore gamer buy a wii? What genre defying games are on the wii?

 

 

Zelda is not an rpg and goes to show how much shit you are talking and how little you know about gaming:

 

Pc hs nothing to do with what wii has done for consoles absolutly nothing. If we are counting pc then none of the hdconsoles have done anything for gaming that hasnt been done on pc before, if you were a real gamer you would know that but as graphics whore you wouldnt.

Its weak of you to go into pc argument when we are talking about consoles and proof you got nothing else to come up with and also you are avoiding to show proof of your claims.

 

dont avoid proving your claims and show us some links to support them.

Show proof of 180ms lag. Allready failed at this and only proving that you talk out of your ass.

Show me proof that hardcore gamers are not buying the wii, there are lots of proof otherwise just on this site and users here and by me posting.

Show proof that most wii´s are collecting dust

You are not getting of that easy we have provided you with answers and examples and just because you dont agree doesnt mean that they are not valid.

So show some proof instead of whinning like a butthurt little kid.