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vaio said:
Mazty said:

Really? My point has been that the wii is not for real gamers as it has no genre defying games and the pad is just a gimmick.

Let's see what I put on PAGE 5:

"They may be ahead at the moment, but the market buying the wii will not bother to buy an improved wii as surveys indicate that many wiis are now dust collectors, with serious gamers playing on either the xbox or ps3, resulting in all the hardcore franchises on either the ps3, pc or 360, and not with nintendo."

Don't say I'm digressing because you can't show how serious gamers would play on the wii. Plus why are you going on about wii sales? I'm going on about the potential next nintendo console and how nintendo have lost the real gaming market. Either way you clearly can't answer how the wii is for real gamers as the pad seems to be just a gimmick as its just a light gun and worse for many genres.

Yes you have been disgressing for a while now.

All the questions have been answered by people in this thread before me but you ignored them as you did with my answers so you can keep asking.

All your surveys are pulled out of your ass just like the latency number.

If you are asking if there is more hardcore gamers on the hdconsoles then yes there are, if you are saying that there are none hardcore gamers on the wii then your are very misstaken.

I would like to see more 3rd party core games on the Wii but its hardly needed since Nintendo got that covered in every genre I am interested in except FPS.

 

Did you purposely ignore my main point? My main point was that the wii audience is not hardcore gamers and therefore not a sustainable one if Nintendo realise another wii-like console. People argued the wii is good for gamers. I then said the wii is not good due to the pad latency, which unfortunaly I can't get any figures for so a unsubstainited point this moment in time, and that the wii has no genre defying games at all.

You have claimed the wii is for gamers and has genre defying and intuative development over the PS3 and 360. I asked you how. You have yet to answer. SO either answer or don't bother at all as you seem to be trying to avoid telling me how the wii is for hardcore gamers considering the pad is generally worse for many genres, whilst none of the games have made any  impact on the hardcore gaming industry.

So either back up your claims and tell me how the wii is for serious gamers, or my original point stands that the wii is not, and therefore nintendo will have to do something very smart to entice the casual gamer to buy their next console as that gamer is not bothered about hardware or game quality.