Ok so I must ask, WTF is up with Others ?

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Wyrdness said:

You should get informed of the situation here in other regions before you knock us, a lot of stores here in the UK stock up heavily on shovelware and as a result the only place to find most of the best Wii games is on online, outside Nintendo I think I can only count two or so games that I've seen ads for and these ads were on pretty obscure channels as I was flicking through. RS2 has the fortune of being from a big publisher so stores will stock it but most people won't know it's out until they actually walk into the store on their next visit as the are no ads playing for it at least not many compared to the constant Bad Company ads and so on playing, games like Muramasa, Silent Hill, TVC and such can't even be found in 80% of stores at all you just have to go online for them.

If you want to sell in Europe you have to hype through the roof as many people here are quite open to games but not on forums and such like us.

I would have to agree with this, our cable provider in the caribean gives us atleast one of each european countries stations. So far from UK's BBC(actually rule that, it's mostly news channel), Germany's DW and Netherland's BVN. I have not seen any wii ads or games in general as of yet! :s

I can also concur on the "barely no good wii games in store shelves" thing. I have friends in the Netherland saying they can't get any hardcore games in stores, let alone asking the store owner to order for them.

Wich brings forths the "wii's only for kids" mentality is a huge problem over there, I have atleast one friend over there that keeps bringing up the "no blood, no buy" thing when I talk about wii games. I even told him about MadWorld, he said he'll look into it, but I'm waiting for his opinion about it...

And what Kenoid said. ;)

Chrizum said:

Most of mainland Europe is Sony and PC land. 95% of gamers I know around here hate Nintendo with a passion.

The result is that, traditionally, "hardcore" gamers would rather eat glass than buying Nintendo games (they do play Metroid and Zelda, but pirate them instead of buying them).

Most retailers in The Netherlands at least, have openly admitted not to stock Wii versions of multiplatform games. Call of Duty: World at War is not carried by The Free Record Shop in Utrecht, and games like Fifa and Need For Speed are very rare as well. Even Sonic games, which sell better on Wii than on other consoles, are harder to find on Wii than on PS3 around here.

A couple of game orientated stores (like Game Mania and Nedgame) refuse to stock games like The Conduit and MadWorld. They say they don't think games like that really fit the Wii.

Seriously, I have talked with retailers around here multiple times and have always left frustrated, because it's a huge problem. Many Wii publishers have encountered this problem and cannot get retailers to order their Wii titles.

In short: gamers and retailers make it impossible for "hardcore" games to sell. As a result only casual gamers who don't know much about games get to buy their games.

Chrizum, you just concreted what I just said... And that's what I call hypocrisy, it's just sad... :(