Geohot hate piracy and stuff

[Kasz216]

superchunk said:

Kasz216 said:

You said it was just a way for theives to tell themselves it's ok.  Thereby branding anyone who believes that... a theif.

If you rape someone, you did not have consent to rape them.  However you aren't committing theft.  You are committing Rape.

If you murder someone, you did not have consent to murder them.  However you aren'tt committing theft.  You are commiting murder.

If you copy the Mona Lisa perfectly you are not committing murder.  You aren't committing any crime.  Unless you try and sell it then it's counterfitting.

 

It's not the "consent" part that's relevent.  It's the effect part.  What happens to the person afflicted.

In theft they lose a possesion.

In rape they are attacked and violated

In murder they are attacked and killed

In artwork reproduction, they potentially lose a sale

In counterfitting they definitly lose a sale.

In software piracy, they potentially lose a sale... but it's really easy to do. 

So Sofware Piracy is between artwork reproduction and counterfitting.

However, this is copyright laws, which are forced to be different because the product can be stolen without loss of a tangible product.

You're just defining it too narrow. As time passes and technologies change, basic definitions must adapt to protect those whose rights are being inflicted upon. Making a copy of content so you can use it without consent fits this new definition of theft for these new technologies.

Its been proven in every court worldwide. Making digital copies is theft.

No... it can't be stolen without loss of a tangible product. It can just be copied EXTREMLEY easy. It would be like if in real life a replicator existed like on star trek that replicated anything you want for free. It still wouldn't be theft. It would be copyright infringement. Or another example. If Pepsi is offered a copy of Coke's formula from an employee, they aren't committing theft.