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Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

I think it's all about your definition of what can be considered as a flop.

If you think a flop is when a company doesnt make profit - like you said about the PSP go! - then you must be consistent with yourself and admit that the PS3 is a flop and that GTA:CW isnt a flop.

As for my own definition of what is a flop, I don't think the PS3 is a flop, but I think the PSP go! is a total flop so far, even if Sony is doing profit on each unit sold.

In short, it's all about being consistent with yourself, your standards must be the same for Nintendo and Sony when talking about flop. Because as of right now it looks like you are totally biased.

p.s. Also you didnt answered about why you didnt compared GTA:CW to GTA1 and 2 (GB) and GTA (GBA). It makes more sense to compare it with those 3 games since it's on a comparable userbase and it's GTA on a Nintendo portable device). Even if we doesnt have clear numbers, we can assume it doesnt sell millions right?

I'm not talking profit. I'm talking sales. I explained that eariler in this thread somewhere i think (may have been a different thread)... And i actually said the PS3 is (or will be) a flop as far as profits go.

And i didn't compare it to them because they were ports of the PC/PSone versions with very minimal marketting, if any at all... Weren't they? Correct me if i'm wrong. Not straight up developed primarily FOR the GB. While the DS game is one straight up developed for the DS... And was classed/advertised a DS exclusive for some time.

So if I understand well, if it doesnt fit your own personnal pre-selected conditions it shouldnt be taken into consideration? Even if the games shares a same kind and size of userbase and if they are handheld games? Because we all know that console games and handheld games follow the same kind of trend when looking at their respective sales... 

And why did you suddenly changed your standards when you were talking about GTA:CW vs. PSP go! (Profit vs. sales)?