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Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
phenom08 said:

well if you compare the first gtas to gta:cw, since they were alot closer to each other then the lastest gtas, then the ratios would be alot closer and like I said if it falls short it falls short psp falling 25 million below isn't close to me so no on that and ps3 selling 80 million is my bet so 20 million units behind again not very close in my opinion so flops confirmed

lol

He didnt called the PSP go! a flop so I don't think he will call the PS3 a flop either. Anyway those are Sony consoles so don't expect him to say anything bad about it.

You can think they are flops, that's okay... Your opinion. Just like me and others think GTA:CW is a flop

And PSP Go is probably the biggest hardware flop this gen. It's actually amusing you compare it's situation to the PS3's tbh... And red - Are you blind? In THIS THREAD i even said CW on PSP is a flop ¬_¬

I think it's all about your definition of what can be considered as a flop.

If you think a flop is when a company doesnt make profit - like you said about the PSP go! - then you must be consistent with yourself and admit that the PS3 is a flop and that GTA:CW isnt a flop.

As for my own definition of what is a flop, I don't think the PS3 is a flop, but I think the PSP go! is a total flop so far, even if Sony is doing profit on each unit sold.

In short, it's all about being consistent with yourself, your standards must be the same for Nintendo and Sony when talking about flop. Because as of right now it looks like you are totally biased.

p.s. Also you didnt answered about why you didnt compared GTA:CW to GTA1 and 2 (GB) and GTA (GBA). It makes more sense to compare it with those 3 games since it's on a comparable userbase and it's GTA on a Nintendo portable device). Even if we doesnt have clear numbers, we can assume it doesnt sell millions right?