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HappySqurriel on 29 March 2010
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Mazty said:
zarx said:
Mazty said:

 

Well let's look at thte facts of the wii and what a new one could offer:
The wii is technically very dated. The games are graphically dated and AI is not going to be impressive compared to the rest of the market.
The pad response time is about 180ms meaning the owners are not concerned about a responsive pad, nor is it 1:1 without motion +.

What could a new console offer that could entice people who clearly are not bothered about graphics or tech as they have the wii to begin with?

If they wanted cheap gaming they'd have chosen the xbox. If they wanted hardcore games, xbox or PS3. If they wanted state of the art graphics/bluray they'd have gone for the PS3.

So again, what could a new console possibly offer to these people who dont care about graphics, tech or media?

you mean besides better graphics and other power based improvements that could easaly put it above PS360 and if Sony and Microsoft wait longer to launch their next gen multi platform titles that look better than on the competition bringing core gamers etc, 1:1 controls with sub 100ms from launch, nintendo brand recognition, marketing and Games, better online capabilities and whatever new thing Nintendo adds? what more do you want do you think that nintendo would be averse to aiming to bring morecore gamers abord and expanding their market even more? I mean who knows what new innovation Nintendo could bring to their next console and from what I have seen they don't even realy need whatever it will be.

 

Thing is you just ignored my points, so I'll repeat myself;

If wii owners cared about graphics, they wouldn't own a wii as it is by far the worst of the 3 consoles for graphics. If they cared about responsive controls, they wouldn't have bothered with the wiimote and would be gaming on a 360 or PS3. The ones that care about 1:1 control own motion plus. 

What you can derive from wii owners are that they don't care about graphics, AI etc and generally the things improved by next gen consoles. Unless Nintendo go down the route of making something radically different, the wii owning market has shown itself not to be core gamers, meaning that you cant expect to treat them as such e.g. pretty graphics sells games, more power sells consoles etc.

You're making a few massive assumptions, mainly that they don't care about graphics and responsive controls ... It is possible that a large portion of the Wii user base just cares more about new game-play experiences and/or social gaming then they do about graphics; especially when there was a couple hundred dollar difference in the cost in buying a Wii compared to the other systems. Just because the HD consoles didn’t take advantage of the processing power to create many new experiences (mostly focusing on enhancing established styles of games) doesn’t mean it couldn’t be used for that, and a large HDTV is better suited for social gaming being that you can spit the screen 6 ways and give the player a fairly large and readable screen.

Beyond that, for almost a decade Gameboy owners demonstrated that they "Didn’t care about graphics" by rejecting the countless color handhelds with better graphics that were released to market and they still upgraded to the Gameboy Advance. When the Wii launched many HD console owners claimed that they "Didn't Care" about motion controls, and with how some of them talk about Natal or Move it is obvious that they do now. The videogame market is an odd place where people don't care about something until a product comes around that makes them care.

 

 

Anyways, even if Nintendo did make a more powerful system I doubt they would sell it on (simply) being more powerful. Something that sounds as silly as using an inexpensive projector to display a play-surface on the ground for a Natal/PS-eye like game may make the difference from some gamers looking at camera based games as "Lame" or "Cool"